MPG normal?

Greg Schoenberg

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After the thermostat scare, we took the Carver 3007 on a 35 mile cruise, burning 32 gallons. Half was spent going 9 mph. Other half, when we weren't docking, was at 17 mph. 9 mph equals 1800 rpms. 17 mph is 3200. We are powered by twin 220 hp Crusaders which need new or rebuilt carbs. Is 1 mpg normal for what I described????

-Greg
 
I'd say it's pretty close. If you look at burn charts, boats get horrible mileage at slower speeds like you were doing. The engines are working to push the boat thru the water rather than push it along the top of the water. Run her ashile at your normal cruise speed and you should see improvement
 
Sounds about right.... I have a 3227 with twin 270 Crusaders and flow meters. Boat uses 18gal/hr at 3200 which pushes about 16.5 kn. Worst mile/gal on my boat is over 2200 but under 2700rpm. 2800 to 3400 is best. Over 3500 and the boat has a drinking problem.

PS.... numbers were not as good before I has PropScan'd and tuned (Cupped). used to get about 1.5 - 2 Kn less for same RPM (rb2@gr5t 3200).
 
Ram,

It doesn't feel like it's plowing at 7 knots, i.e. 8-9 mph. at 1800 rpm's. Instead, it seems efficient. Small wake...quiet. In fact, it's my favorite running speed, especially in calm water.

Do you have a link for reference to these burn charts?

Thanks!

-Greg
 
The owners manual I got with the boat had the original sheet from Carver in 1985. Half fuel, half water, no equipment, dead calm seas and two people on the boat. Not what I would consider normal use for most of us. If you want I will scan and post.
 
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Originally posted by geomut

The owners manual I got with the boat had the original sheet from Carver in 1985. Half fuel, half water, no equipment, dead calm seas and two people on the boat. Not what I would consider normal use for most of us. If you want I will scan and post.






I'd really appreciate that Geo.

-Greg
 
Greg...I don't ahve any references taht I can send, however, most boating publications publish these charts when they test boats. You can see on most of them that, depending on year of the boat/engines, the most economical speed is 3200 for older engines to 3800 for newer engines.
 
As requested, This was in my 3227 book but a closer look shows it's for a 3207 Aft Cabin. I think it's the same hull. Good luck.

CarverFuelData.jpg
 
590 Ft. above sea level? Where was that at?
 
Thanks Geo,

I saw similar stats in the 1981 sale brochure which is obtainable on the Carver site.

What those stats, and your data confirms, is that it's efficient to cruise at 3000-3200 rpms. GPH isn't that relevent...it's mpg that counts. However, it's nice to know that I can relax at 1800 rpms and not lose much in terms of mpg. There are merits to both speeds. When I'm in a protected, scenic area, like behind Bainbridge Island, I like going 7-9 mph. When crossing the shipping channel on the Sound, I like getting across the crik.....quickly.

-Greg
 
That's a great chart! Does anybody have the same or similar information for a 3807?

Jeff
 
Lake Michigan is about 580ft above sea level. Probably 590ft in the 1980s since the lake levels have dropped as of late. I am not sure where Carver does their testing, but they are not that far from Lake Michigan (Green Bay).

Theoretically, the best fuel mileage for any boat is at hull speed ( HullSpdKts = 1.34 x √ LWL ) , and while I don't know what the LWL length of the boat is, a 30ft boat means that the hull speed is somewhere around 6mph, which the chart seems to agree with.

Guess if gas gets above $5 per gallon, we'll all be running around at 6mph.

I still want to put fuel flow instrumentation on the boat, but (at least) with Cruisader's '90s era engines, the EFI used a closed loop fuel system (return line to the tank). This takes a two-stage fuel flow instrument so that the return metering can be subtracted from the input metering.

Unfortunately, there are not many fuel flow instruments that can handle this. But Floscan is developing a NMEA2000 sensor to do diesel (which is kind of the same as a closed loop system). I have talked to Floscan, and they tell me that their system should work with Crusader gas closed loop systems. The fuel sensor system should begin shipping this spring.
 
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Originally posted by jdkohnke

That's a great chart! Does anybody have the same or similar information for a 3807?

Jeff






A couple of years ago, Oasis posted his personal chart. I guess he has a flowscan. His readings aren't anything like above.
Hull speed got him around 1 mpg where he only got less than 1/2 mpg at cruising speed, around 3200 rpms which I think was about 16 knots.

If Oasis reads this, maybe he can repost.
 
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