not good

Sounds like a vignette of BOUNTY. About all we can do is pray.
 
Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??
 
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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

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Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??








You'd be surprised how many boats I tow that I have to loan life jackets from the tow boat. Not only not enough jackets to go around but some have none at all.

Bob
 
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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

quote:

Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??








You'd be surprised how many boats I tow that I have to loan life jackets from the tow boat. Not only not enough jackets to go around but some have none at all.

Bob
 
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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

quote:

Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??








I don't believe any of the reports said no pfds. Just indicated they were trying to make a life raft of sorts. The water is cold. They would not survive in the water with pfds
 
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Originally posted by getakey

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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

quote:

Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??








I don't believe any of the reports said no pfds. Just indicated they were trying to make a life raft of sorts. The water is cold. They would not survive in the water with pfds










You are correct. I misread that portion of the article...
 
That part of the pacific can get a little nasty this time of the year.
 
Lets hope it is bogus. If it were true, I'd think the parents of the cousin on board would be screaming
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






I once took a 24 footer from Newport to Bermuda (not the race)with no GPS and no engine.
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






Don't ever underestimate the power of being stupid.
 
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Originally posted by rnbenton

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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

quote:

Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






+1....but if this event turns out to be true, I certainly hope it turns out well.

Who goes out, let alone with a small child, NOT carrying any PFD's on board!??








You'd be surprised how many boats I tow that I have to loan life jackets from the tow boat. Not only not enough jackets to go around but some have none at all.

Bob










I'm not at all surprised. I see the same thing all the time. Not so much out here in the northwest as I did in the northeast, though. There aren't near as many 'clueless' boaters out here - and I say that as someone FROM the northeast.
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Sounds like another stupid prank! That far offshore in a 29 footer with no GPS? I don't buy it... Nobody can possibly be that stupid






All I know about it is what's in the article that's linked above, and media reports are notoriously misleading and inaccurate, but:

-It sounds like they got a DF fix, or at least a line of bearing, substantiating the reported offshore position. They said something about radar, no idea what that is about. The overwhelming majority of hoaxes originate on land.

-No GPS screams hoax - almost EVERYONE has -some- kind of GPS nowadays. But they did say 'no working GPS' and that the electronics were failing, then eventually lost comms. The guesstimated (since I'm getting it from a news report) LKP of 60 miles out tells me they weren't on a handheld. key information then lost comms is another age old hallmark of a hoax, but I've seen plenty of legitimate instances where it happened, too.

-Everything else in that news story points at a hoax - no results at all from the admin search, no corroborating overdue or unreported reports.

-The fact that no debris at all has been spotted, again, per the news story, doesn't really mean much. Sailboats generally don't generally leave much of a debris field. Powerboats usually do. And given the winds out here lately, the debris field would dissipate quickly (a mostly submerged object won't be affected by winds anything like a more buoyant, barely submerged object.)

And this abandoning boats thing drives me nuts. Short of fire, there's no good reason at all to abandon a small boat before it abandons you. Absent a fire, you should never be stepping DOWN into a raft or the water. I've had boats sink out from under me - it's no different than walking down the steps into a pool and into the deep end with a life jacket on. A sea monster is NOT going to jump out and pull you down with the boat - if it even sinks at all.
 
yes, sounds very fishy now

However, if true and they were in the water, they would not have made it through the night. The water is 50 degrees or less there

I heard a tape of the abandon ship call on the news on the way home. Did not sound like someone in a really bad situation. Voice was too calm.
 
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Originally posted by getakey

yes, sounds very fishy now

However, if true and they were in the water, they would not have made it through the night. The water is 50 degrees or less there

I heard a tape of the abandon ship call on the news on the way home. Did not sound like someone in a really bad situation. Voice was too calm.






I wouldn't bank on anything based on tone of voice. I've had recreational boaters freaking out when everything was fine, and I've had a commercial fisherman calm as could be when things were really, REALLY bad.
 
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Originally posted by November Charlie

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Originally posted by getakey

yes, sounds very fishy now

However, if true and they were in the water, they would not have made it through the night. The water is 50 degrees or less there

I heard a tape of the abandon ship call on the news on the way home. Did not sound like someone in a really bad situation. Voice was too calm.






I wouldn't bank on anything based on tone of voice. I've had recreational boaters freaking out when everything was fine, and I've had a commercial fisherman calm as could be when things were really, REALLY bad.








I would agree except things are not adding up. Boat taking on water and other electronics fail. Radio still good. 65 miles offshore, so handheld would not transmit that far would it?
Then sends last message saying they are abandoning ship - radio still working, yet they have to abandon into 50 degree water with a 4yr old?

found a link to the call released by CG

http://www.piersystem.com/clients/4007/524667.wav
 
If it is real someone will report them missing. Everyone knows somebody.
 
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