NY Fluke Closure - Sept. 4th

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NYS DEC has announced that they are voluntarily closing the fluke fishery effective September 4, 2007. Their rationale is that we exceeded our artificially calculated allotment by an even more ridiculous and imagined number.

The closure for 2007 is bad enough, but it sets a first time precedent that can be really bad for us anglers going forward. It is the first time that NY has volunteered to close a fishery without consult or real warning.

Additionally, the sacrifices made in previous years by us recreational anglers stand to be obliterated by out-of-state commercial draggers whose allotment in some cases (NJ), is increasing and will be allowed to clean out near inshore NY waters that historically host the largest and most prolific fluke catches of the season.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/outdoors/ny-spfluke0831,0,2634168.story

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DEC TO HALT RECREATIONAL FLUKE SEASON TUESDAY
Federal Quota Likely Already Exceeded

Citing overfishing, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Pete Grannis announced today the closure of the summer flounder (fluke) season effective Tuesday, Sept. 4.

Preliminary data indicates New York has likely already exceeded its 2007 recreational fishing quota for summer flounder, set by federal mandates. If the state allows the season to remain open through the end of the year, it could trigger harsher regulations next year, the commissioner said.

“We know recreational fishermen and charter captains typically fish fluke into October. But if we do not shut down now, we risk greatly exceeding our quota and forcing a further clampdown on these businesses and anglers next year," Grannis said.

The shutdown does not apply to commercial fishing.

Earlier this year, DEC - with input from the recreational fishing industry - increased the minimum size for taking fluke, from 18 inches to 19.5 inches, and maintained a four-fish-per-day cap. This was done largely to try to meet stricter federal limits on recreational fluke fishing. New York's fluke quota for 2007 was lowered to 430,000 from 650,000 in 2006.

Data from the Marine Recreational Fishing Statistics Survey show that approximately 357,000 summer flounder had been taken in New York by the end of June. Data for July and August will not be available until mid-September; but based on patterns from previous years, DEC's Marine Resources Division estimates New York has already harvested more than its quota.

In addition, New Jersey, Connecticut and Rhode Island fluke season are scheduled to close by early September.

“If New York's season stays open, we may attract anglers from other states, creating even greater potential for over-harvest," Grannis said. “Some might ask `Why bother since it is so late in the season?' But unless we do this now, overfishing will continue and we could be severely hurt next year."

Further, federal officials and interstate fishery management councils, who are amid a 13-year, coast-wide rebuilding plan for fluke, have already signaled that New York's and other Atlantic coast states' 2008 quota will be lower than 2007.

Fluke are one of the most sought after commercial and recreational fish along the Atlantic Coast, from Florida to Nova Scotia. The federal Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act, amended last year, requires that over-fished stocks be rebuilt by 2013. Annual quotas are established through the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) in consultation with other federal and state entities and fishery councils.

In 2004, New York challenged the data used by the National Marine Fisheries Service to set the state's quota. But the U.S. Commerce Department ruled in favor of the NMFS plan.

“We recognize the importance of this industry and the impact this action will have,'' Grannis said, “and we'll continue to examine the quotas, as we go forward, as part of our efforts to balance all the interests."
 
Eric, that sucks, just heard about it today. The whole idea of going to the 19.5" limit I thought was that we'd at least have no closed season... I didn't mind the bigger limit too much, but shutting it down early is not good at all.
 
I agree Walter. Once again we get shafted. First, there is no shortage of fluke. The data is flawed, the historical fluke population they are trying to get back to is a guess and the time alloted to do it is impossible. Also notice the closure doesn't apply to commercial fisherman, who are solely responsible for the crash in fluke population in the first place. There is no way recreational anglers fishing with hook and line can catch more than modern commercial draggers with nets. It's absurd how this resource is managed. And what's more absurd is the series of bad decisions the agencies responsible keep making. If this keeps going at the pace it's been going, fishing will be outlawed, and billion dollar industry will disappear.
 
Holy Cow!! that really stinks. What am I gonna do with all that frozen spearing and squid in the freezer! I heard the same thing, larger size limit in return for an open season. Figures, this is my first year back into boating and I can't fish for any more Fluke?! I have an 18 foot boat and fish mostly buy captree bridge. Right now the bay is full of bait fish and they arn't even biting. I can't go out a mile to 70' of water. I must have thrown back 40-50 Fluke and only got to keep 2!! Who got to keep the other 429,998. Not me. Last time I had a boat it was 10 years ago. What was the limit,18.5? At least you knew if you cought 4 or 5, you would bring one home. Oh well.
Chris
 
Well, there is even confusion with the DEC involving anything that has numbers in it , so it appears. The official announcement on their website states that the closure is in effect as of September 17. That gives us 2 additional weeks unless they change their minds again.

John- I agree with what you said. For several years now we have made the sacrifice and played by the rules, all the time knowing that we were saddled with these imaginary numbers. We gave up some size and numbers of fish so that all would have a longer season and along comes this new guy at the DEC along with a new regime in Albany and they decide they their going to not play and take their ball home. I don't think I'm alone when I say it's time to say "NO MORE".

http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/37534.html
 
Yep, apparently they've moved it back to the 17th.
 
I will be out on Saturday feeding the fish again. :)

Walter
 
I'm not sure who was keeping all of the early season fluke, I certainly wasn't. Now that they are getting larger and I'm catching bigger fish, they close the season...meanwhile I've thrown back a bazillion fish. I could see changing the regs to some large number and trimming the number of fish but to completely close the season...based on whose count? Only commercials?
geez...now we can all go after another over-fished specie...soon they'll be restrictions on spider crabs.
 
I spoke with a young lad that works on one of the fishing boats out of Captree, he told me they are slaming the bass to the right of buoy #1 (where the rip is) out of the FI inlet. I know if I try there their will be no fish :(. Maybe you guys will have some luck.

Walter
 
The problem is, the recreational fisherman, until recently hasn't had a voice, and more importantly a lobby in Washington. We get screwed on both sides. On the left by the commercial fishing industry who for the longest time has had congress in their pockets and are the sole party responsible for depletion the fish stocks. On the right, by the government agencies who rely on bad science and flawed data to set their ridiculous policies and stock rebuilding laws. Notice the closure only applies to the recreational sector. The commercial fleet is free to fish away. Also, as some of you may not be aware. The allocation of total allowable catch is not 50 50. It's 60% for the commercial and 40% for the recreational sector. Another inequity we can thank the commercial lobby for.
 
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