Ask a place to give me a quote on painting the bottom of my boat. About a month later I received an email with the quote attached and a contract that said sign and return with 50 percent down so they could start the job. I did not get back to them because I was waiting on other quotes. Well, a month later I receive two bills, one for storage and another for bottom painting. I called and said I wanted to pay for the storage and did and then was asked when would I be paying for the bottom painting. I said I never gave the ok for that and did not sign a contract or send in the 50% down to have that done. The question is do I pay the whole amount, pay for materials, or pay nothing? I wasn't even sure I wanted it done since it was the runabout and I could just pull it out every weekend.
Painted bottom without contract
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Personally, if the bottom pain was needed, job done well and reasonably priced, I'd pay the man. Save the relationship in case you need future work done. Plus, save yourself the aggrevation of getting your boat back without a lein placed aganst it.
Bob
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I had a similar....I put it up on blocks, he decided it needed a good steam cleaning and did it.
It was such a good job and needed it, I paid him and thanked him.
No telling how long the Job would have gone, undone, if he hadn't of done it.
It was such a good job and needed it, I paid him and thanked him.
No telling how long the Job would have gone, undone, if he hadn't of done it.
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was the price fare ? and I take it from the way you worded your post. It's on hard at the same place that painted, do you pull here alot ? If the answers are yes then pay the man with the understanding that your doing so to be fare to him, abd that you are kinda PO'd that the work was done without approval.
and I bet we see more yards pulling this stuff...
and I bet we see more yards pulling this stuff...
You said: I told the yard NOT to paint the bottom but the owner kept saying it needed to be done. I said no again. They painted it. I paid. Not in a million years would I have paid the $$$. I said "NO"; that means "NO" !
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I agree with Jim P. I would pay the bill for the bottom paint.
The bottom was never painted. It was a new boat and we wanted the estimate to see if it would be worth painting it and leaving it in or just pulling it in and out on the weekends. 1100 to paint the bottom and the difference in price of renting a block for 400 or another dock for 1400.
based on your description you are not obligated to pay them for painting the boat. You can prove, using their own process, that they didn't have your permission. you are doing the business a favor if you pay them. They screwed up and you get a free paint job. I would pay nothing.
I don't get how others would pay for something they didn't want done....imagine al the things the yard could come up with!
I don't get how others would pay for something they didn't want done....imagine al the things the yard could come up with!
Bob,
how can they put a lein against it? I signed a contract for winter storage and paid it. I wanted an estimate for painting the bottom. Nothing signed. Also the next day I called and left a message and was going to talk to them and they have not called back.
how can they put a lein against it? I signed a contract for winter storage and paid it. I wanted an estimate for painting the bottom. Nothing signed. Also the next day I called and left a message and was going to talk to them and they have not called back.
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Ditter, I'm sorry I read the last part of your post to fast. Based on the rest of the info I'd go for no pay..
Dritter,
If the bottom was never painted and they painted it, the value of your boat just dropped IMHO. Trailer boats that do not have bottom paint are way more favorable than those that are painted. Of course, if the new owner plans on keeping the boat in the water, then bottom paint or not is a moot point.
In 2001, I bought a brand new Bayliner Ciera Classic, with trailer the boat was around 41K. I gave specific instructions to the dealer not to paint the bottom. The day I picked up the boat, the bottom was painted.
I got 2k more off the boat as well as 3-4 hundred dollar electric winch for the trailer.
$1,100.00 to paint the bottom of a trailer boat????? YGBSM!!!! IN NY this would be outrageous. I am thinking that a "virgin" hull needs more than just paint. But as a point of reference, my 37.7 LWL boat with a 13'10" beam cost me $150.00 for the paint, and 120.00 for the guy that paints it. I did have someone paint this this season (yard) and would be shocked to see a bill more than $500.00
Just food for thought on whatever you decide to do.
Walter
If the bottom was never painted and they painted it, the value of your boat just dropped IMHO. Trailer boats that do not have bottom paint are way more favorable than those that are painted. Of course, if the new owner plans on keeping the boat in the water, then bottom paint or not is a moot point.
In 2001, I bought a brand new Bayliner Ciera Classic, with trailer the boat was around 41K. I gave specific instructions to the dealer not to paint the bottom. The day I picked up the boat, the bottom was painted.
I got 2k more off the boat as well as 3-4 hundred dollar electric winch for the trailer.
$1,100.00 to paint the bottom of a trailer boat????? YGBSM!!!! IN NY this would be outrageous. I am thinking that a "virgin" hull needs more than just paint. But as a point of reference, my 37.7 LWL boat with a 13'10" beam cost me $150.00 for the paint, and 120.00 for the guy that paints it. I did have someone paint this this season (yard) and would be shocked to see a bill more than $500.00
Just food for thought on whatever you decide to do.
Walter
Dritter,
I would write a letter to the manager stating the facts and close the letter with a statement that you are happy with the job performed(if this is the case) you might also including a statement about work that has been performed in the past, again if it was performed to your satisfaction. You should then state that you remain very concerned that work was performed on your boat without your authorization. I would not make any statement about withholding payment or making payment. The letter should do nothing more than state the facts and include your contact information. This does a number of things for you and may in fact lead to the manager reaching out to you with some kind of discounted offer.
Fwiw,
Brian
I would write a letter to the manager stating the facts and close the letter with a statement that you are happy with the job performed(if this is the case) you might also including a statement about work that has been performed in the past, again if it was performed to your satisfaction. You should then state that you remain very concerned that work was performed on your boat without your authorization. I would not make any statement about withholding payment or making payment. The letter should do nothing more than state the facts and include your contact information. This does a number of things for you and may in fact lead to the manager reaching out to you with some kind of discounted offer.
Fwiw,
Brian