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The Other Gary

The Other Gary

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Mike, adding to the dinghy registration thread.
What is the attitude for my dinghy with 9.9 visiting from Canada where registration numbers are not required under 10 HP?
 
That's a good question, Gary. Registration numbers are issued by each state in the US so it's more of a question for the state agencies than USCG. You'd have to double check the state(s) you're visiting but I would think that if you're in compliance with the laws where the vessel is registered then you'd be fine. Do you have a registration sticker? In my experience the big deal is having a registration sticker that's current as what's really important is that you've paid your taxes! :-)
 
In Canada Kurt there are no taxes or annual stickers on vessels in Canada.
Once you have bought and paid the sales tax applicable the licensing numbers for a Province do not expire.
Or if you register federally (document)the registration is renewed every 3 years at no charge.
Dinghys under 10 hp are exempt from licensing.
Trailer license plates are also a one time thing with no renewal stickers to buy.
 
I would say that lack of a registration sticker is going to be the "red light" that attracts law enforcement here in the states.
 
In VA I've seen dinghies with T/T (Tender To) (Main Vessel) and no registration numbers. The dinghy cannot be used independent of the main vessel but lengthy jaunts to provision or dine are never questioned.

I've seen this with documented and hull numbered vessels.
 
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Originally posted by KiDa

In VA I've seen dinghies with T/T (Tender To) (Main Vessel) and no registration numbers. The dinghy cannot be used independent of the main vessel but lengthy jaunts to provision or dine are never questioned.

I've seen this with documented and hull numbered vessels.

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I've often seen that here in MA , but the FAQ page of the MA vessel registration site indicates "T/T" is not acceptable here in lieu of required registration, though of course that could be added if desired:

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Q: I have a small motorized tender to my Coast Guard documented or state registered vessel. Does this tender require a registration or can I label this boat "Tender To"?

A: Any boat powered by an electric or gas motor must be state registered. Only ship lifeboats are exempt from registration."
 
Not surprising in MA Sandy.

Anything to garner another buck from us nasty rich people.
 
I'll bet if you show any authorities who may stop you the Canada rules and your Canada papers they'll let it go if for no other reason......confusion.
 
We still haven't seen NC on the board lately.
Has anyone heard from him?
 
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Originally posted by Billylll

We still haven't seen NC on the board lately.
Has anyone heard from him?

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He's been pretty busy around Memorial Day weekend. Going to do some research so I have a more solid reference than memory on this topic.
 
33 CFR 173 and/or 174 would be the relevant regulations. Should be something in there about foreign vessels temporarily using US waters. I'll look for the paragraph when I have a few minutes later today.
 
It seems that Gene nailed it. At least from the safety equipment and USCG viewpoint.
Not sure how some self important state guy might see this.

§ 24.15-5 Canadian pleasure craft temporarily using navigable waters of the United States.
Uninspected Canadian pleasure craft (uninspected vessels) temporarily using navigable waters of the United States may carry in lieu of the equipment required by this subchapter, the equipment as required by the laws of the Dominion of Canada and the regulations of the Department of Transport, Ottawa, Canada.
[CGFR 65-50, 30 FR 16650, Dec. 30, 1965, as amended by CGD 95-028, 62 FR 51196, Sept. 30, 1997]

There is also a corresponding Canadian Law for US Pleasure Craft visiting Canada

Safety Equipment Requirements

Foreign pleasure craft (pleasure craft that are licensed or registered in a country other than Canada) need to comply with equipment requirements of the country in which the vessel is usually kept.

If you are not a resident of Canada and are using a pleasure craft licensed or registered in Canada, all of the required safety equipment must meet Canadian safety requirements. However, you may opt to bring your own PFD for your own personal use.

For more information, consult the Small Vessel Regulations.
 
Gary - I bring that section to the table with a "?", cuz 46 CFR section 24 applies to UPV's. I'm no lawyer, and don't know if section 24 applies to recreational boating.
 
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