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PascalG

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#1- carrying a dozen jugs of water on deck ? as if sailboat weren't already cluttered enough...

i could understand that on a boat cruising the bahamas but I see boats cruising the keys or ICW doing that... why can't buidlers find space to add water tankage !!

#2 - no rubrail. I see a bunch of sailboats with no or insufficient rub rails... why is that ? from what i see it's not like the average blowboater does a better job docking !
 
Oh boy. I see the aggressive attack on blowboaters. Pascal must be trying to overcompensate to feel normal.

He probably had a nice sailboat docked next to him over the weekend and found himself admiring it and that made him feel all dirty or something...

Agree with you on #2 though.

You forgot about all the wine and cheese. What's with it with these people. It's like democrats pretending to be sophisticated all the time. Then you take a closer look and its all colby and reisling. It's just pathetic if you ask me...

bp
 
Pascal, Pascal, Pascal, are we bored today or has slagging off on the PWCs become too tedious for you? ;-)
 
As to # 1 - jugs of water = sail boats answer to fresh water wash down
#2- Larger rub rail would look funny when only needed 5 ft in the middle of the boat. Only place that touches, right.
 
All depends on the boat... my old Pearson had a first class, full length rub rail. I never needed fenders. I'd be reluctant to buy a boat without one; I'd be wondering what other shortcuts the builder took in the name of fashion....
 
Why so many water jugs?...would you want to drink water from the fresh water holding tank? I've seen those hatteres 53's, and you have a large fridge in the galley that holds plenty of poland spring sport water bottles not to mention the bar in the aft saloon stocked with them as well.

As far as rub rails, geeze, they have large poly balls in the cockpit locker that they take out and hang midship when they approach thre dock!

Adam
 
Pascal...I didn't have access to water from a city source from May to November. Power is limited to generate water so most rag boaters will collect it. Unlike power boats, we don't have a marina curfew, not needing to be in a marina after dark, and don't have access to the water supply. I suspect the boats you saw are typically at anchor rather then in a marina. We know how to anchor overnight also. I know that's a strange concept to a gasser.

We don't have rub rails because we don't rub up on stuff. We think it's a mistake to crash into things, rather then the gasser's delight in ripping up the pier and other boats.
 
I always looked on those Huffers as Pack Rat boats. Stuff tied all over, and blue tarps for sundecks. Sorta like a Basque Sheep herder won a lotto and bought a boat.

But the only really ugly thing about a Sail Boat is that damn clattering all night long from the cables strung up and down the mast(s).

I read about a guy that sailed around the world all by himself. (Maybe it was a Video Tape) and his outlook on Water was to take cases of Lite Beer along to drink and cook with. He probably enjoyed his trip a lot more than some folks.
I guess he meant to catch rain water if he needed fresh water for some obscure reason.
 
Chattering halyards are a sign of a newbie or a sloven captain, probably a stink boater by nature. Water is for washing clothes and taking showers, foreign concepts to a PB'er.

You guys just don't understand the joy of sailing for hours and being no closer to your destination then when you started; maybe even farther away. On the slim chance you ever do get to your destination you get a wonderful feeling of awe and accomplishment. A PB'er never experiences this, always expecting to get to the destination in a timely fashion...where's the fun in that?

Besides sailboats look better in pictures!
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

#1- carrying a dozen jugs of water on deck ? as if sailboat weren't already cluttered enough...

i could understand that on a boat cruising the bahamas but I see boats cruising the keys or ICW doing that... why can't buidlers find space to add water tankage !!

#2 - no rubrail. I see a bunch of sailboats with no or insufficient rub rails... why is that ? from what i see it's not like the average blowboater does a better job docking !
Pascal
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Pascal inserted a smily into his thread title - so, I suppose he's just poking fun at the expense of the three or four sailboaters in here.

Those "ragbotes" you see with jugs on deck, are most likely cruisers - "living their dream", on inappropriate boats for doing so. You didn't state the types of sailboats with a "dozen jugs of water on deck", but it would be my educated guess they were coastal and inland cruisers, such as Beneteaus, Hunters and Catalinas [Benehunterlinas]. Most models by these makers are designed as day-sailers and weekenders, with small watertanks.

Take a closer look at bluewater, cruising sail boats and unless living permanently on the hook - they will have ample tankage. These types are of higher quality, construction - obviously costing more when new, so living the dream on these boats is further from reach for some.

Re: rubrails - look closely and you'll see they're there, typically small, monochromatic plastic strips, cleverly incorporated into the hull design - mostly found on Benehunterlinas to protect the cheaper, fragile hulls.

Many offshore cruising sailboats have them, but typically of heavier rubber, stainless material, or even teak on older vessels.

The vast majority of sailboats without rubrails are the racing hulls - built to be light and fast. Rubrails would add weight and be uncomfortable against the butts of railmeat, hiking over the windward side.

My boat has a 140 gal water tank and a substantial rubber, perimeter rubrail secured beneath the teak toerail. No water jugs on my deck thank you. It is however, a high quality 9 ton bluewater cruiser.

Oh, and Brett, yes - we love our wine and cheese, but please, no colby and reisling for us. That is, unless we're entertaining our powerboat friends. ;-)

Steve
 
As an ex-sailor myself, I can answer those questions with some degree of experience. The water jugs are a relatively new phenomena. One used to be able to tie up at a marina at 2 AM, take showers, do laundry, drain the fuel hoses and fill the little on board fresh water tank. However, those inconsiderate profit mongers started locking up marinas and hiring security guards. Now sailboat owners have to carry the jugs and fill them when they hog the fuel dock in the middle of the day for a couple of hours to fill up with five gallons of fuel or so, do a load or two of laundry and hike to the local supermarket.

Rub rails are unnecessary because every sailboat carries an assortment of fenders. And I mean assortment - they are in a variety of sizes and shapes because they are ones that they have found floating in the water during their cruises.
 
There are plenty of big jugs on powerboats too, especially go-fasts. The only difference is they’re filed with silicone, not water.
 
let me make clear that i dont' have anything again sail... while i'm poking fun, i also posted this because i'm kind of in a looking around for what i like mode, for the day i'm ready to cross to the dark sode.

correct, i saw a bunch of them this week end with tanks on deck. i saw a couple in their 60s carrying half a dozen tanks in the dinghy and in a small dock cart at a park to fetch water ! yes it was a 40ish hunter.. come on now, that boat must cost 300k new and doens't have enough water tankage for a few days on the hook ?

peleka, anchoring overnight isn't a strange thing to me... i do it almost every week end thank you and really prefer that to being in a marina. i added a big inverter and big battery bank just for that... see, I already have a ragboter attitude :-)

older boats that is see aroudn here have teak rubrail capped with SS. the newer boats dont and when you come in a narrow slip with multible pilings, you need a rub rail or a crew to hold fenders in position... not practical. i saw a nice cat backing in yesterday rubbing it's hull side on the pilings... except on a race boat, i dont' see why a standard rub rail couldnt' be installed

Adam, yes, why not... and i do. i quickly tired of luging gallons of spring water down the dock and figured that the water from my tanks was not that bad tasting...
 
That's the way it starts. Pretty soon you'll be posting in the sailing forum.
 
ICW salebotes are really underpowerd motor boats with a big stick up the middle to slow traffic down while providing jobs for bridge tenders. Less than 1/2 of 1% of the salebotes going by my house ever have their sales up but they do leave a friendly wake. I think the water jugs are there instead of the rub rails so in the event of a collison with anything they act like the water filled drums on the interstate and simply explode water absorbing the impact. Or, could be the water is yellow.
Mike, Palm Coast, FL
 
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