Reserve your slip for next season?

Did he finally make enough money off of the global warming scam?

And to keep this boating related I was hoping that global warming would raise the sea levels then perhaps I could leave my slip at low tide.

What exactly would be wrong with a longer boating season anyway?
 
Longer boating season? Plenty of water in our slips?

What's the downside????
 
Back on topic...Wait, what was it...Oh Ya....
I Reserve both winter storage and summer slip in October.
 
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Originally posted by HOGAN

I guess there is a reason why PennyBridge was the only marina in Stony Point and Haverstraw that had ALL of it's slips filled last summer.

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I completely agree with you regarding the profesionalism and the way PB treats it's customers.. BUT you really can't make such a claim based on their reputation as the size the the marina's in question are like compairing apples to oranges.. NO?

Do you think if the PB guys ran Haverstraw it would be full just because they are good businessmen.. I think not.
 
If the PBM guys ran Haverstraw, I know of a LOT of boaters who would go there in a heartbeat!

So Leigh, are you saying that size does matter?
 
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Originally posted by Starry Night

Man you guys have been having fun. As for me, I reserved my slip for the summer. Remember what makes boating fun, your family and the friendS you have made while boating. With that said, I like were I am. The marina offers several features I like, the pool and play area for the kids, the resturant, parking close to your dock and floating docks.

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Really.. Damn.. I mean great, looking forward to another wonderful season... LOL

J/K Bob.. Don't get you knickers in a bunch...
 
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Originally posted by Sweetness

Do you think if the PB guys ran Haverstraw it would be full just because they are good businessmen.. I think not.

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I bet it would be full. The PBM boys are smart enough to know that if the marina is only half full then perhaps RAISING prices is not the way to attract boaters from other local marinas when you are already the most expensive game in town.

If Haverstraw were run by Rick & Steve and they dropped the rates even $10-15 a foot then the SP marina's would be hard pressed to have any boats that draw over 2 feet left. There would be a waiting list for slips that could stretch out for several years.
 
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Originally posted by rommer

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Originally posted by Sweetness

Do you think if the PB guys ran Haverstraw it would be full just because they are good businessmen.. I think not.

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I bet it would be full. The PBM boys are smart enough to know that if the marina is only half full then perhaps RAISING prices is not the way to attract boaters from other local marinas when you are already the most expensive game in town.

If Haverstraw were run by Rick & Steve and they dropped the rates even $10-15 a foot then the SP marina's would be hard pressed to have any boats that draw over 2 feet left. There would be a waiting list for slips that could stretch out for several years.

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Yes I agree but would they be profitable?
 
Yep, you don't make money on slip fees, it's the service, and PBM would clean up there!
 
I bet that if most people have confidence in the repair shop and the fact that they aren't going to rip you off, they are probably more likely to let them fix a problem then try and tackle it themselves.

When I had my Searay, the dealer did all of the work. BTW, that was were PBM is now located.
 
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Originally posted by HOGAN

If the PBM guys ran Haverstraw, I know of a LOT of boaters who would go there in a heartbeat!

So Leigh, are you saying that size does matter?

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Yes, size does matter!
I would be one of those that would go to Haverstraw if the PB guys ran it but regardless there have been alot of boats on the hard or repo'd the last few years and it has nothing to do with good or bad business practices...

How many slips does PB have?
Couple hundred if that.

How many does Havertstraw have?
I think it's over a thousand.
 
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Originally posted by rommer

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Originally posted by Sweetness

Do you think if the PB guys ran Haverstraw it would be full just because they are good businessmen.. I think not.

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I bet it would be full. The PBM boys are smart enough to know that if the marina is only half full then perhaps RAISING prices is not the way to attract boaters from other local marinas when you are already the most expensive game in town.

If Haverstraw were run by Rick & Steve and they dropped the rates even $10-15 a foot then the SP marina's would be hard pressed to have any boats that draw over 2 feet left. There would be a waiting list for slips that could stretch out for several years.

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IDK John... Much more overhead with a 1000+ slip marina then with the few slips at PB...

Sure you can have competitive prices but with that many slips whats the point if you are not profitable...

I doubt it would be full.. Not in this economy!
 
Leigh

Haverstraw meters electric and we all know they make money on that. SPBM charges a facility fee.

Lets look at overhead, marina is owned by the town and leased out. Hmmm, I wonder what their tax bill is.

How about staff. Haverstraw has roughly 1100 slips and SPBM at around 400. Does Haverstraw have 3 times the staff that SPBM has? Nope. More yes, 3
x, no.

BTW - I never said Haverstraw should charge what SPBM charges. At a $10-$15 reduction they would still be $90+ per foot while SPBM is at $74. That $16 jump is very easy to justify for deeper water.

And has Hogan said it's not the slip fee's that make the money it's service. More boats equal more service.
 
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Originally posted by rommer

Leigh

Haverstraw meters electric and we all know they make money on that. SPBM charges a facility fee.

Lets look at overhead, marina is owned by the town and leased out. Hmmm, I wonder what their tax bill is.

How about staff. Haverstraw has roughly 1100 slips and SPBM at around 400. Does Haverstraw have 3 times the staff that SPBM has? Nope. More yes, 3
x, no.

BTW - I never said Haverstraw should charge what SPBM charges. At a $10-$15 reduction they would still be $90+ per foot while SPBM is at $74. That $16 jump is very easy to justify for deeper water.

And has Hogan said it's not the slip fee's that make the money it's service. More boats equal more service.

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Firt of all... We are talking about Penny Bridge not SPBM! How many slips does Penny Bridge have? Nowhere near 400!

Second of all... I will bet money that Haverstraw has more than 3x the staff of Penny Bridge! I would even bet they have more dock hands and Gas dock attendants then Penny Bridge has on there entire staff.
 
Leigh, since you don't stay at PBM, you are not allowed to talk about it.
 
Damn, how did I miss this thread before. This work crap really stinks... [:-censored]

And Mike you took the words out of my mouth. ;)
 
Yup, my bad. I used SPBM as the example but the logic still works. You did point out another revenue stream though, the fuel dock. I'm sure that pays for MUCH more than just the fuel attendants.

Since I don't slip at PBM I can't use their slip rates as an example. But I have used their service department as well as their ship store and recommend both very highly.
 
Mike: I'm not sure I agree with your statement that "you don't make money on slip fees. it's the service . . . ". Haverstraw has been in business for a long time and is not especially known for it's service. A lot of boaters from there, myself included used PB for all service issues. Service at PB cost me more than service at Haverstraw, but you got prompt, quality service in exchange.

And John correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will ;) a large number of the boats at Haverstraw, (all of those under 32') are currently paying $86 to $88 per foot, over 32" the price jumps $6 a foot. So when you look at the entire marina I'll bet their average price is in the $90 to $94 per foot range. I'll bet they are very competitive will all other area marinas except Bel-Mar.

Also Haverstraw has not raised their per foot rate in the past three seasons.
 
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