Ruined Weekend...

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while we all had to deal with the rain this weekend. I received an email with the below...

On Saturday morning, a friends boat in Oceanside caught fire. The video link is below. He completed electrical work on Friday and just finished filling his tank which holds 300 gallons of fuel. The plan was to spend Saturday and Sunday on the boat. Needless to say, my friends never made it off their dock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ndv5KnVc-k
 
That was hard to watch. I hope nobody got hurt and the smoke damage to his house wasn't too bad.
 
no idea...was sent with the message I pasted. I'll know more in a few days.

I don't think anyone was hurt.
 
We say the smoke from Merrick . News 12 had a small clip of it

That sux

Rob
 
Oceanside fire dept should be embarrassed by their water response time and active hydrant count !

This is how not to fight a fire

Rob
 
Theres a shot of the hose in the pool, idk if its pumping from there or not. And when they are on the police boat with the hose, hose is in the canal, and you hear a pump in the background.

I bet they could empty that pool pretty quickly though..
 
That looked like they couldn't get enough active hoses going and total chaos! Sad to watch. Heard there were a half dozen or so departments that responded. Neighbors had to be very nervous about it spreading big time. The cops are the final fighters? Very odd.
 
I'm not sure critising the FD is fair. Getting water to the back yard of a residence can be tricky. You don't want to charge a line that can be crimped up in a tight space. Seems like there was no threat to life at that time, what would be the rush. As far as pumping water out of the canel or pool, the truck needs to be close to the source. Hard suction hoses are not that long. I wasn't there, but it didn't seem any different from most emergency situations, rarely do things look smooth. The only thing I was wondering was why they didn't use foam. Other then that, it was a job well done.

Just saying,

Billy 10K.
 
I didn't see it, but how was boat secured to dock.
I would think lines would burn and boat start to move.
There was some good winds this weekend too with all the storms.
I assume this was a diesel boat?

I thought the FD did a great job except for the water thing and you can tell they had issues running hoses, that was it. I don't think any emergency situation is planned. You can hear them say things like, "sounds like a plan". Every deal is different. You see when guy choking from the smoke. They obviously had limited angles to approach it without getting caustic smoke in their face. I give all FD's credit, these guys for the most part are volunteers. I wouldn't want to do it. You hear the beeping noise from their locators, that reminded me of WTC. Never forget!
 
Guys ,
The fire dept is responsible to test every hydrant in the district. They are supposed to have a fire plan for every type of building or house ( high rise etc ) in the district. If your district is boardered by water u better have a fing plan to fight a fire like we saw. Its not rocket science. There was no urgency to get another hose running. In the begining of the clip the hose the firemen had was dead. The first thing a truck does when it pulls up to a scene is stop at a hydrant and connect to water. Also most trucks have a dewatering pumps to pump out basements etc. They could have used this during the fire at any time using the bay water. They did not . So yea I have an issue with the way this was handled.

Rob
 
Fire was electrical and started within the cabin. It was a 50' boat so its probably diesel.

in the clip there's a fireman with a grappling hook that was probably deployed to pull the boat into the wall and not escape down the creek.
 
Rob,
Don't forget these guys are all volunteers, also I get what BillyK is saying "there was no threat to life at that time"

Just saying buddy
 
The volunteers saved the boat at the water line............

I like the palm trees in that guys back yard too !
 
What kind of boat though? Transom looked "sea ray ish" but can't be sure.....
 
From Newsday: Reports of the fire came in around 2:25 p.m., and the luxury boat, a 2002 Viking, was fully engulfed in flames, Nassau County police said.
I read other articles that claim it was a 30' boat so who knows!
 
I've read twice there was no water pressure at the hydrant. The water pressure seemed fine to me. The FD sends a person out with another person from the area water company to test hydrant water pressure yearly. The FD does not have the authority to make anybody upgrade water pipes. Lets not forget these waterfront properties not that long ago used to be bungalow communities that have been upgraded to mcmansions.
This fire was a fifty foot boat which in our world is a big boat, but in fighting a fire in that small a space putting two 1 1/2" hoses on that fire could have back fired into each other and hurt someone. Again, there was no immediate danger of life or further damage to property.
De watering pumps if one was on the truck and I doubt it, would have added to what has already been described as chaos.
Give these guys a break. They kept the boat from burning anything else and didn't break anything in the process.

Just saying,

Billy 10K.
 
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