Rule pumps
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Definitely 12v, the one that went bad is wired with fuse directly to battery. Last year after I bought the boat I replaced both existing bilge pumps, both shower sump units, and added a bilge pump in the engine room. To have a problem in 2 of the 5 units seems a lot.
Billy K.
Billy K.
Bill and Billy are on the right track. Usually someone has replaced them using hardware store connectors wide open to corrosion. When replacing them again ditch the standard crimp connectors and get the heat shrink ones. They will last much longer. Tinned copper heat shrink ones. I re wired all of my pumps and re plumbed them shortly after purchasing my boat. It was 20 years old and that was the second thing I did after all raw water intake hoses and impellers.
It always looks worse because there is usually way more wire than needed all bunched up by the connectors.
Good luck!
It always looks worse because there is usually way more wire than needed all bunched up by the connectors.
Good luck!
Bill- Here's a report that seems to have contradictory reports that for instance Rule Industries was still using mercury in some float switches as of at least 2004, and also that Rule Ind. had eliminated mercury from float switches as of 2001. Also states 5 tons of mercury was still used in float switches by various mfgrs. in 2007.
http://www.newmoa.org/prevention/mercury/imerc/factsheets/pumps_2014.pdf
http://www.newmoa.org/prevention/mercury/imerc/factsheets/pumps_2014.pdf
Sandy all but my 2 largest crash pumps were replaced with Rule 2000's in late 2005-06. They all still work as of the end of last Fall. I had what I thought was a failure last summer but it ended up being a corroded negative butt splice connector on the engine room regular bilge pump. The culprit was a non marine blue type butt splice and it was replaced with the blue translucent type after I cut back a few inches of the pumps wires. I re-did all the connections to that pump and checked the others. My shower sump gets plenty of use and that has been great. Regular cleaning is all that has been required of the shower sump box, I think that's a small 600-800gph pump?
Bill
Bill
The good news is West Marine replaced the pump and float switch. The bad news is I now don't really trust the pumps and for at least the short term will test them more often.
As some of you may have read I am rewiring the ac and dc electric on the boat. Along with this I am sending signals to the bridge that will light which pump is working and a buzzer to alert me so I will know even under way.
Last year I was having a problem with fresh water in the forward bilge. I replaced the complete shower sump unit and was still having problems. I never thought it could be the sump unit, but the backflow stuck semi shut and overflowed into the bilge. It wasn't until I had this recent problem I figured it out.
Lesson learned, just because it's new and from a reputable company, it may not be any good.
Billy K.
As some of you may have read I am rewiring the ac and dc electric on the boat. Along with this I am sending signals to the bridge that will light which pump is working and a buzzer to alert me so I will know even under way.
Last year I was having a problem with fresh water in the forward bilge. I replaced the complete shower sump unit and was still having problems. I never thought it could be the sump unit, but the backflow stuck semi shut and overflowed into the bilge. It wasn't until I had this recent problem I figured it out.
Lesson learned, just because it's new and from a reputable company, it may not be any good.
Billy K.
Good thing I now check these pumps monthly. The float switch in the engine room that was installed last June and worked a month ago doesn't work anymore. I replaced it, but it is really starting to piss me off. The biggest headache is the location of these things. What a pain in the ass.
Needed to vent, thanks,
Billy K.
Needed to vent, thanks,
Billy K.
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Billy,
I bought one of those electronic switches. It does not use a float.I think it is called the water witch and it relies on water touching 2 contacts as opposed to a float. I may install it when I do my new pump, but if I don't you can have it. Will let you know.
Dave
I bought one of those electronic switches. It does not use a float.I think it is called the water witch and it relies on water touching 2 contacts as opposed to a float. I may install it when I do my new pump, but if I don't you can have it. Will let you know.
Dave
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In 7 years, I'm on my 4th Rule cover pump.
(2 replaced at NC)At $150 to $180, it is not a cheap pump.
Spring is when I discover faulty pumps.
Although they say it is fully submersible, and freeze proof, I will, from now on, remove the pump over the winter. If needed, and not frozen, I will make a point of pumping cover & store again.