Slip and Storage Information

Brian77

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Hi everyone,

I've been lurking here for a while and finally decided to sign up and log on. I'm looking to purchase a 27'-30' cruiser soon and I'm looking for slip and winter storage prices. I live in Lindenhurst and would prefer something close.

I spoke to a friend of a friend and they quoted me $90 per foot for a slip down near Venetian. Is this about average?

What about winter storage?

Thanks!

Brian
 
A slip for your boat in the Anchorage would be about $3200 and that includes winter storage.
Come down and check it out.

But $90 a foot is pretty chesp. Winter storage here is $20 a foot. Haul out is $17 a foot.
 
Welcome to BoaterEd! Best of luck with your new adventure--boating!
 
Thanks for the quick reply and welcome.

Dave, does the $3200 for the slip and winter storage include haul out as well, or is it still an additional $17 a foot? I live about a mile from the anchorage so I think my wife and I will check it out.

Oh, and how are the slips and winter storage rates typically calculated? Is it linear foot for the slip and square foot for winter storage, or does it depend?

Thanks,

Brian
 
I'm not in the Anchorage because I own a private slip now. But had I not bought my private slip I would more than likely have gone to the Anchorage. I think it's a fair deal for a renter because the rental includes winter storage, and the winter storage there enables you to do the winterization yourself. You might find a boatyard that will be cheaper for dockage and winter storage, but they will require that they do all the winterization and maintenance. That raises the price considerably and will put you well above what you'll be paying at the Anchorage.
The other benefit to the Anchorage is that it's the type of place that you wouldn't mind hanging out at or sleeping over on your boat. That probably won't be the case with many of the boatyards around.
I used to be in a boatyard in Lindenhurst. It was probably one of the cleanest places of that type around and the owners were very fair and honest, but it was still just a boatyard. I was there for three seasons and never spent the night there or felt comfortable just going down and hanging out for the evening. They let me do some maintenance and repairs on my boat which is more than most places do, but they had to do the winterization as part of the winter storage deal. Paying them to do two motors, a head, AC, fresh water tank, and oil changes added up, and all of those tasks are very easy for anyone with even minimal DIY skills.
Another reason I was strongly considering renting in AYC was that I was very interested in buying something and I thought that the best way to get a feel for a place was to rent for a season. If the place suits you, buying is the best way to go IMO.
Slip rental at AYC seems to be pretty easy to come by the past few years. You can just stop in the office and get a list of what's available with prices, or keep an eye on Craigslist for individual owners who are looking to rent on there own. Buying one there works pretty much the same way.
Good luck!
 
Brian,
The slip rental fees typically include summer and winter but not electric. Electric is cheap and water is free. So haul out is extra but the haul out includes spring launch.

As stated above, Anchorage as a few perks.
1) Work on your own boat or bring in own mechanic (huge savings if you take advantage of it)
2) Park behind your boat
3) Pool, Tennis, playground, security.
4) Discounted gas at gas dock.

If you price it around and add up the extras, its a great deal.
Further if you can spare between $25 - 60K, depending on slip size, you can own a slip and your savings are even greater.

Slip pricing is usually flat based on slip and haul outs, shrink wrap, detailing is all per foot.

We will be down here all day today, stop by, over on D dock!
 
What's the going rate for a private slip ( behind a house ) ??........How does it compare ??
 
I have a friend who rents behind a house in Massapequa. The owner of the house has 80 feet of bulkhead and no boat. They rent it out in thirds for $1000 per slip. He has two of the thirds.
Not a bad deal if you don't mind walking in and out of someones yard. It's always been the least desirable situation for me though.
 
I am always amazed at the number of people who live on the water and keep their boat here at the Anchorage. I hear different reasons for that, but the common ones are canal is too narrow for their size boat and they don't get the party marina atmosphere behind their boat. If I had the boat behind a house I would probably use it more because to get the hang out on the dock and party scene you would have to go some where. I find I look out on bay and say, why leave dock alot. But there is nothing wrong with that. I prefer being in a marina to behind someone's house any day.
 
John...........What size boat does your buddy have ???. It can't be any larger then about 25' ??. Does that include water and electric ? What are the restrictions he has to follow ??

......$1,000 sounds cheap !
 
I didn't have time to stop by the Anchorage this past weekend but I will stop by soon. Given the price and all of the amenities it sounds like a pretty good deal.
 
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Originally posted by Double D

John...........What size boat does your buddy have ???. It can't be any larger then about 25' ??. Does that include water and electric ? What are the restrictions he has to follow ??

......$1,000 sounds cheap !






Don,
He always has different boats that he keeps there because he is always buying and selling boats that he puts motors in to. This year it's a 24' boat, last year he had a 32' Carver there, the year before he had something else. I sometimes lose track of what he is cruising around in. He has 2/3's of the bulkhead so the Carver fit with room to spare.
He has two other 23' boats over at his gas station that are for sale. He was going to register one of them so his son could use it and keep it there, but the summer went by too quickly, and he had a couple of people interested in the boats at the station, so he never got around to it.
There is electric in the yard that he can use if he needs to for a power tool, but not the kind you would plug the boat in to and walk away.
There is also a hose that he can use to wash the boats down with.
He has a good set up because the family that owns the house uses him for their auto repairs, so by the time he has to pay them for the slips in the spring, they usuaally have had close to that dollar amount of work done on their cars.
It's not a bad set up because he just needs a place to tie up and go. He has become pretty friendly with the owners too.
It's not the kind of set up I would want, but it suits his needs and the price is right.
He was using my uncle's smaller slip on my canal, (the 30' of bulkhead slip) for a center console this summer and liked it a lot better. It's a set up like mine, but on the other side of the canal and a few blocks north.
I'm not sure if he's going back to my uncle next season though, unless his son puts something in the water and needs a slip, because it is more money ($1500?) and further to the Jones Inlet for the fishing boat.
He actually keeps asking my uncle to sell it to him so he'd have it for his son, but it's not for sale.
We have other friends that are behind a house in Amityville. They paid $1000 this season too for their 24' boat. Same kind of set up. They had been in a boatyard paying $1500 before this season, but they heard about this place and jumped on the chance to save $500. Again though, they weren't looking to hang out on their boat either. They pretty much just jump on it and go. When they come back they give it a quick wash down and leave.
When my brother had a boat he kept it behind a house in Copiague Harbor. He was paying close to a $1000 too. Again though, he had a walk around cuddy that he used exclusively for fishing. He was only ever there long enough to load and unload the boat, and do a washdown after a fishing trip, so it worked for him.
He had no interest in hanging out on his boat.
 
Hey everyone, I finally made it down to the AYC recently and I got some good information. The one question I have is what size slip do I need. As long as my survey goes well I will have a 1986 30' Sea Ray Sundancer with an 11' beam. Will a 12' slip be large enough or will I need something larger?

-Brian
 
Brian, A 12' would work in a pinch, or a transient spot, but for a permanent slip, I would go for a 13’ or larger for your size boat. Beam plus 2’, is a good measure, I prefer beam plus 3’. Now if the price is right and nothing else is around within the marina in your price range, take it and keep your eye out. I know people that have slips you can hold a pencil between the pile and the boat and they are fine. But location is key, prevailing winds, current, tides etc. can make a big difference. Bigger is better in most cases.

Brad
 
3' of space? I wish!
I have a 13' 2" beam and my slip is about 14' usable.

Remember, most slips are wider at the mouth due to the finger pier, which steals about 6".
With that said, some boats are widest at the middle of the boat.

Ultimately, the bigger the slip, the easier it is to rope it up so you hit no poles at any tide.
But that's not always feasible.
If the difference between a 12' slip and a 15' slip is say $1000 for the season, well $1000 buys alot of rubber pole protection which is a one time cost!

If it was me, for a 11' boat, I would want at least 12' and I would shop location, if I had a choice over width. Also if you can get a slip that has four poles instead of two, that is a plus. That extra set of poles helps alot becuase once your between them, your in. Where with two poles, you have to go back between 2 boats before your secure.
 
Watch out for the useable width of a slip. I looked at a few in the 12 foot range down there, but they would have been too tight for my 11 foot beam. I guess the deeds said 12 feet or something, but when you deduct for whatever space the poles take, and then the finger pier, you are at someting less than 11 feet wide.
I have the 87 version of your boat, I would need every inch of 11 feet useable, and then some to keep from pushing poles apart.
 
I saw the notation on the price list stating that the sizes are approximate...definitely worries me a bit.

I also stopped by the SS3 marina and they seem pretty good too. Anyone have any opinions on SS3 vs AYC?

-Brian
 
Brian,
SS3 from what I see looks like a nice clean marina. They use to be very expensive when the economy was good, the AYC, was less then.

You need to compare apples to apples. What I mean by that is you need to pick a slip you like in the AYC, then pick a slip at SS3 and compare the two.
When comparing the two, consider the following:

Is the slip user friendly? Meaning, can I park my car behind the slip? Or do I need to park my car far away and have to haul all the provisions I need every time I go out on the boat.

How difficult is it to navigate to the slip and dock the boat there, is it tight and stressful or easy?

Do you have a view? Are you too close to where they work on boats or the gas dock? Bathrooms, if you have guests down to your boat, are their facilities for your guests to use, and if so, do they need to drive to those facilities or is it a close walk?

Is the slip you are looking out provide you with a spot to just hang at your slip and barbecue behind it, set up a picnic table and enjoy your slip?

SS3 vs AYC
If all above is equal between the two slips you are looking at, consider the advantages AYC has over SS3.

At SS3, you have to use their yard for EVERYTHING.Everything includes: Guys that wash and wax your boat, mechanical work, shrink wrap guy, etc, etc, etc. Keyword here is "EVERYTHING". This is where the AYC shines and will cost you half the amount then having your boat at SS3. Get a price list from SS3 and you will see what I mean.

Other huge advantage to AYC is your summer rental includes winter storage.

Hope this helps with the question you asked.

Walter
 
Walter,

Thanks for all of the information. I've spoken to a few people over at the AYC and I'm going to keep my boat there for the rest of this season as well as over the winter. Now, I just have to figure out the title/registration problems with the boat I found, which you can read all about in the new topic I just posted.

Thanks,

Brian
 
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