Source for Carver Teak from the 80's

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I am looking to make some specific sized spice racks, wine racks, and shelves for the galley and some shelves for the head on my 1986 Carver Mariner 2897.

I do not like the looks and dimensions of any of the pre-made ones online or in catalogs.

I have tried staining oak, maple, and poplar but they just don't cut it.

Does anyone have any sources for teak that I am not finding online? Seems like there has to be some somewhere for less than the WM price.

I would like a species of teak the same as or similar to the one on the boat. I calculated that I would need $600-800 worth of teak, at WM prices, to complete the projects.

Any thoughts or ideas? Anyone played around with any other finishes/species that are less obvious than the ones I mentioned?

Thanks for any advice!

Jim
 
I have just finished making two drawer units for my boat from a wood called Iroko. This is sometimes called Nigerian Teak. It has much the same look as teak, but is much less expensive: $6.00 per board foot vs $24.

I have some pictures of the finished units and will take a picture of them on the boat in a few days. AS soon as I have these I will post. They match the teak in the cabin of my Pursuit very well.

I purchased the wood from walllumber.com.

George
 
For a source of teak, check your local area for woodworker's stores. They usually have a good selection of exotic woods. I actually like Bubinga rather than Teak, and Bubinga, Teak and Mahogany excel at being stable which means it won't warp in damp areas; like outside (although Bubinga and Mahogany should be Varnished). Cherry, for instance, is no good in the cockpit areas as it easily warps - even after 10 coats of varnish.

Ipe is a cheaper alternative to teak, has about the same color, texture, and water properties, but it is a lot harder, and heavier. Its sometimes called Nature's Concrete. One of my boating buddies routinely uses both Teak and Ipe on projects.

In my last boat, it had a fabric speaker cloth grille in the cockpit - rather cheap looking, and it eventually stained.

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I replaced it with a piece of Bubinga

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But Buginga, like Teak is an exotic, but rare species. I would make sure you bought it from a tree farm rather than from a de-forested area.

Here is an alternative material you may not have thought of - Corian.

Corian machines and polishes well with standard woodworking tools.

While Corian is normally hard to get as it is only available through dealers, DuPont has found that there is indeed an artistic flavor to the product, so they have made Corian available through http://www.coriartspecialties.com in less than kitchen countertop sizes. You can also sometimes get countertop cutouts from kitchen shops or on eBay.

Here is an example of a fiddleboard I out in the head. Its made of green Corian and aluminum standoffs. I later modified the fiddleboard after I bought a lathe and turned Corian standoffs.

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I also used green Corian for the stereo mount in my last boat:

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I also used a piece of Corian to mount the chartplotter on my old boat. It mounted from the underside of the dash by removing the cupholder.

I have even been able to tap screw threads into the piece to attach the chartplotter. But the threads are a bit weak, so I would recommend using inserts for this kind of thing.

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I used black Corian for my stereo project on the current boat:

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The black Corian is a solid color, and when highly polished, looks a bit like Onyx. The green Corian I used had the normal speckled pattern you normally associate. There are a wide variety of colors and patterns available.

Corian can be used for many, many things; simply limited by your imagination. Its an alternative to using wood, and in the right color, can make an attractive balance and complement to the existing woodwork.

Here, again on my last boat, is a Cherry wood curtain rail I made for the rear berth. I capped the end of the Cherry rail with a piece of green Corian so that the curtain would be held captive. I thought this made a nice contrast, and used a small piece of Corian that would otherwise probably been thrown out.

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I guess I should patent this idea before a boat manufacturer uses it. [8D]
 
awboater, what kind of piece sizes does corian come in?

From what I am reading you are saying that I can cut corian with my table saw, miter saw and run it through my jointer planer. Also can route it with my router. Is this correct?

How does the shear strength compare to solid wood? Will it bend or does snap easily? How thin a piece can you work with?

G
 
Corian can be drilled, bored with Forstner bits, cut, sawed, routed, sanded, and turned with regular woodworking tools. I would use carbide-tipped tools though if you have them.

DuPont protects their dealer network, so Art Specialties can only sell Corian up to 15" or so wide, as that is normally too narrow to make countertop. I cannot remember how long you can get it, but you can call them and find out.

Cheaper alternatives are eBay or maybe buying sink cutouts from a Corian job at a Kitchen Shop. Art Specialties may be more expensive than eBay, but then you are buying retail, and can get any color you want. With eBay, you are hit or miss on the color.

But you may want to buy a small piece of Corian from eBay and play around with it a bit.

It has some amazing properties, but it is soft enough that it can be scratched. No worse than wood though.

I once made a set of pens for a co-worker that had Corian installed in their home, and they had matching-pens to their countertop.

Corian comes in 1/4", 1/2", and 3/4" with 1/2" being the most popular. Not all colors are available in all thicknesses.

Corian is very strong, and fairly heavy. It cannot normally be bent. It is a bit brittle but in normal thicknesses you cannot snap it. If you heat it, you can bend it. Here is a web page where coat hooks were made from Corian: http://coriart.blogspot.com/

I have not used a jointer-planer, but that is the one woodworking tool I would not recommend. But I have not tried it.

When I needed to "thin" some Corian, I used a rube-goldberg milling machine setup:

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Art Specialties will machine Corian for you, and cut the size you need, so there will be little waste.

The only specialized tools you need is sand paper. I would recommend wet-dry sandpaper, from 400 grit up to 12,000 grit. The finer grit sizes can be had from www.woodcraft.com or other woodworker stores.

You don't have to go to 12,000, as even 1,000 is glossy - about like countertops. But if you go to 12,000 - WOW!

If you are an experienced woodworker, and have not tried Corian, you are in for a treat.
 
Chef: matching your teak is more likely a function of age darkening and color changing than a different type of wood. get some scrap teak and try different stains and see if that works.
 
Chefjunk, check out my current thread of the pictures of my boat drawers. This shows the Iroko wood being used as a sub for teak.

G
 
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Originally posted by gcolton

Chefjunk, check out my current thread of the pictures of my boat drawers. This shows the Iroko wood being used as a sub for teak.

G






That looks great! I ended up buying teak (ouch). Waiting on one more board to come as I miscalculated a rip by 1/2" and now have some "scrap" to play with.

I thought the rule was to measure once and curse twice, but apparently I was wrong.

Jim
 
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