Been busy working and noticed the previous thread disappeared. Wayne, did you get any satisfaction in getting your boat back up and running? Not sure what shifters your boat uses, but I replaced by shifter(s) a few years back and kept all of the old parts if they might help you out.
Thread disappeared, Wayne any good news?
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Zapped by admin or by request from the OP??? [:-timebm]
Inquiring minds want to know... [:-magnify]
Inquiring minds want to know... [:-magnify]
I'm the moderator for this forum and I didn't zap it although Les may have. I think Wayne may have reconsidered some his strong words when his anger cooled down. Probably a good thing although iwould like to hear the final determination of what happened.
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Yeah, me too.
I don't blame him for being pizzed off. I would be too.
I hope things get worked out and he is back on the water real soon...
I don't blame him for being pizzed off. I would be too.
I hope things get worked out and he is back on the water real soon...
I didn't zap the thread. I'm not on fire like I was a few days ago but I'm still fuming as my boat is still not up to speed. I had an appointment with a mechanic to start work on the boat today but he pulled a no show.
He may start tomorrow but after missing today I can't know for sure.
I called Boat US insurance and explained the situation. They've been great so far.
I found dock line wrapped around the port side prop which explains the shifter situation. I raised the outdrive enough to where I could lay on the swim platform and cut the rope.
The shifter moved freely after that. I got both engines started and took the boat out for a test. I idled out of the marina no problem but once the boat had a load on it, trying to get on plane the port engine quit. I don't know what [th] did to my boat in terms of damage. I hopefully know for sure tomorrow when the mechanic gets there.
Memorial day is close. If the new mechanic doesn't show can anyone direct me to a mechanic that can come to my boat on short notice, get the parts he needs and finish the work quickly? Im willing and able to pay. Money isn't the issue. Time is most important at this point. I'd like to be up and running for a test run by this upcoming weekend. Ts just amazing how hard it is to find good, fast and reliable help... Even with the money to pay it's hard to not get jerked around.
He may start tomorrow but after missing today I can't know for sure.
I called Boat US insurance and explained the situation. They've been great so far.
I found dock line wrapped around the port side prop which explains the shifter situation. I raised the outdrive enough to where I could lay on the swim platform and cut the rope.
The shifter moved freely after that. I got both engines started and took the boat out for a test. I idled out of the marina no problem but once the boat had a load on it, trying to get on plane the port engine quit. I don't know what [th] did to my boat in terms of damage. I hopefully know for sure tomorrow when the mechanic gets there.
Memorial day is close. If the new mechanic doesn't show can anyone direct me to a mechanic that can come to my boat on short notice, get the parts he needs and finish the work quickly? Im willing and able to pay. Money isn't the issue. Time is most important at this point. I'd like to be up and running for a test run by this upcoming weekend. Ts just amazing how hard it is to find good, fast and reliable help... Even with the money to pay it's hard to not get jerked around.
Wayne,
I edited your post to remove the person's name. I think you should be careful mentioning people by name in a public forum without proof of their guilt. It's possible that there was rope in the water when the engine was started that locked the transmission up. If I were a mechanic, I could certainly come up with a more creative way to sabotage a boat. In addition, a rope entangled in the prop would not cause the engine to die.
As to getting your repairs completed, I would assume that you are going to use the shop that condemned the previous mechanic's work so that they can prove that they were correct in their diagnosis. If they can't get to you on time, I would suggest taking the time yourself to pilot the boat to a shop with a brick and mortar presence like Outboard Motor Shop, the boatyard in Vallejo or maybe KKMI in the Richmond area. I understand that you had an opportunity to have one of our resident RO's look at it on Saturday, but weren't able to get together due to last minute schedule changes. That's a shame, because he is an incredible mechanic that can make things happen quickly and he has a big heart.
Remember if a mechanic is good, he isn't sitting around waiting for new customers with the ability to pay, he probably already has a full workload. I wouldn't hide the fact that I was willing to pay a premium to slide to the front of the line because this is their busiest time of the year. Most boaters know they need work done, but don't do it during the slow months over the winter, they wait until just before Memorial Day (the unofficial start of boating season) to get their mechanic started. You might also ask your folks about who they used and trusted as a mechanic. If they were good long term customers,. he might cut you a break.
Good luck, I'm sure with a little luck you'll be up and running in no time.
I edited your post to remove the person's name. I think you should be careful mentioning people by name in a public forum without proof of their guilt. It's possible that there was rope in the water when the engine was started that locked the transmission up. If I were a mechanic, I could certainly come up with a more creative way to sabotage a boat. In addition, a rope entangled in the prop would not cause the engine to die.
As to getting your repairs completed, I would assume that you are going to use the shop that condemned the previous mechanic's work so that they can prove that they were correct in their diagnosis. If they can't get to you on time, I would suggest taking the time yourself to pilot the boat to a shop with a brick and mortar presence like Outboard Motor Shop, the boatyard in Vallejo or maybe KKMI in the Richmond area. I understand that you had an opportunity to have one of our resident RO's look at it on Saturday, but weren't able to get together due to last minute schedule changes. That's a shame, because he is an incredible mechanic that can make things happen quickly and he has a big heart.
Remember if a mechanic is good, he isn't sitting around waiting for new customers with the ability to pay, he probably already has a full workload. I wouldn't hide the fact that I was willing to pay a premium to slide to the front of the line because this is their busiest time of the year. Most boaters know they need work done, but don't do it during the slow months over the winter, they wait until just before Memorial Day (the unofficial start of boating season) to get their mechanic started. You might also ask your folks about who they used and trusted as a mechanic. If they were good long term customers,. he might cut you a break.
Good luck, I'm sure with a little luck you'll be up and running in no time.
All great advice.
I guess my best bet at this point is to see how tomorrow goes. The new mechanic, which is a brick and mortar shop/boat yard, gave me their word that they would begin work tomorrow. If that for some reason doesn't happen I will have to get busy on the phones and make something happen.
I totally understand that good mechanics are in demand. It was never my intention to wait until the last minute. I started servicing the boat in December but have had recurring problems until now where I finally decided to go with a different mechanic.
I'll keep you posted with how things go. Wish me luck
I guess my best bet at this point is to see how tomorrow goes. The new mechanic, which is a brick and mortar shop/boat yard, gave me their word that they would begin work tomorrow. If that for some reason doesn't happen I will have to get busy on the phones and make something happen.
I totally understand that good mechanics are in demand. It was never my intention to wait until the last minute. I started servicing the boat in December but have had recurring problems until now where I finally decided to go with a different mechanic.
I'll keep you posted with how things go. Wish me luck
Wayne,
I made the appointment. If you can't even show up at the time you made the appointment for, I can only assume your boat isn't on your list of priorities.
Leaving a message after I left to meet you doesn't absolve you of your responsibilities. Calling me a no show only shows your lack of consideration of others.
I wasn't planning on mentioning that you missed the appointment as I already told you I was intending to go in that direction so it wasn't particularly out of my way.
I don't expect you'll be getting much help in the future with your attitude. Certainly not from me.
I made the appointment. If you can't even show up at the time you made the appointment for, I can only assume your boat isn't on your list of priorities.
Leaving a message after I left to meet you doesn't absolve you of your responsibilities. Calling me a no show only shows your lack of consideration of others.
I wasn't planning on mentioning that you missed the appointment as I already told you I was intending to go in that direction so it wasn't particularly out of my way.
I don't expect you'll be getting much help in the future with your attitude. Certainly not from me.
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Wow!
Hollywood writers couldn't come up with a storyline like this...
Wow!
Hollywood writers couldn't come up with a storyline like this...
Wow!
Thanks for the heads up Les. I thought as much, that's why I edited Wayne's post. I wish the mechanic would post his side of the story too, so that people can hear both sides and his reputation isn't damaged if he didn't do anything wrong.
there are two sides to every story. No names of course. Put yourself in my shoes. You have a starboard engine tha needs a carb rebuild and a port engine that runs perfectly. Mechanic that shall not be named rebuilds starboard carb.
You get back to boat and starboard runs but now port won't shift or start?? The mechanic was the last one on your boat.... What would you do? Would you be happy or mad? Is my anger and frustration misplaced??
You get back to boat and starboard runs but now port won't shift or start?? The mechanic was the last one on your boat.... What would you do? Would you be happy or mad? Is my anger and frustration misplaced??
Wayne,
I would certainly be upset if an engine mysteriously went bad. However, I think that I would do some investigative work before accusing someone on a public forum. I have never used the mechanic in question, but have seen many of his posts ans those of happy customers on other sites that i frequent. I've also seen you thank him for information here, hire him to do work, complain about the work and responsiveness, then thank him again and then cuss him out again saying that he sabotaged your boat. I think you'd have to be the first to admit that you are a very emotional person and tend to go off easily.
If he sabotaged your boat, he deserves to be outed and other boaters warned. However, as I mentioned before, the rope could have been in the water and got sucked up into the props either when he or you started the engine. In addition, an entangled line would have nothing to do with the engine not running properly. I really empathize with your situation, but as Les said, there are always two sides to every story. You have said that money isn't an issue, but I seem to remember other posts where the mechanic stated that you were going to continue to have problems until you got the water out of the fuel. There are a couple of ways to do this .... frequent changes to the fuel/water filter, have the fuel polished or have the fuel pumped out and disposed of. None of thewse solutions are cheap and I have to assume that you either didn't believe him or didn't want to go to the expense of performing them.
You also had the opportunity to have Charlie look at the engines so that he could help you out. If you've been around here much, you would know that Charlie is an excellent mechanic with a big heart. I understand that something came up and you were late in meeting with him or tried to change the time and ended up not getting together. You say that this is really important and that money isn't an issue, but you couldn't prioritize your time to meet with a guy that probably would have helped you out for the cost of a good meal. Treating someone else as if your time is so much more valuable than theirs is not a good way to create working relationships. I have to wonder if that played a role in the troubles with your original mechanic. Take a few minutes and review your past posts to see why I've formed this opinion.
I have heard good things about Diablo Marine. Hopefully they can fix your troubles and you can start with a clean slate with them. Remember just because they turn a wrench instead of what you do doesn't make them any less valuable and if you don't want to learn anything about your power plants, you'll have to trust them and not second guess what they tell you. Good luck, I really do hope it works out for you and the rest of your season is trouble free.
I would certainly be upset if an engine mysteriously went bad. However, I think that I would do some investigative work before accusing someone on a public forum. I have never used the mechanic in question, but have seen many of his posts ans those of happy customers on other sites that i frequent. I've also seen you thank him for information here, hire him to do work, complain about the work and responsiveness, then thank him again and then cuss him out again saying that he sabotaged your boat. I think you'd have to be the first to admit that you are a very emotional person and tend to go off easily.
If he sabotaged your boat, he deserves to be outed and other boaters warned. However, as I mentioned before, the rope could have been in the water and got sucked up into the props either when he or you started the engine. In addition, an entangled line would have nothing to do with the engine not running properly. I really empathize with your situation, but as Les said, there are always two sides to every story. You have said that money isn't an issue, but I seem to remember other posts where the mechanic stated that you were going to continue to have problems until you got the water out of the fuel. There are a couple of ways to do this .... frequent changes to the fuel/water filter, have the fuel polished or have the fuel pumped out and disposed of. None of thewse solutions are cheap and I have to assume that you either didn't believe him or didn't want to go to the expense of performing them.
You also had the opportunity to have Charlie look at the engines so that he could help you out. If you've been around here much, you would know that Charlie is an excellent mechanic with a big heart. I understand that something came up and you were late in meeting with him or tried to change the time and ended up not getting together. You say that this is really important and that money isn't an issue, but you couldn't prioritize your time to meet with a guy that probably would have helped you out for the cost of a good meal. Treating someone else as if your time is so much more valuable than theirs is not a good way to create working relationships. I have to wonder if that played a role in the troubles with your original mechanic. Take a few minutes and review your past posts to see why I've formed this opinion.
I have heard good things about Diablo Marine. Hopefully they can fix your troubles and you can start with a clean slate with them. Remember just because they turn a wrench instead of what you do doesn't make them any less valuable and if you don't want to learn anything about your power plants, you'll have to trust them and not second guess what they tell you. Good luck, I really do hope it works out for you and the rest of your season is trouble free.
Lessen learned. I believe I have been sufficiently chastised on this forum..Im sure most of it is deserved. Particularly with Charlie..I was on the boat early that morning..had to run out and take care of something, family related that popped up. Tried to call and reschedule but it was too late. Getting this boat running by Memorial day weekend is a top priority for me. Just having a hard time getting someone out there to do it. Im definitely in a bind.
I agree that I do react emotionally at this point because my plan, back in December was to do my off season servicing and then have a nice running boat for the season..instead, every month it has required more servicing and often times it was the same problem cropping up again. In terms of water in the fuel, I ran all of the fuel out of the boat as instructed, filled it to the top, added Marine Stabil..dumped fuel filters, poured the contents into a glass jar and was able to determine that water was out of the fuel.
So, over the course of Dec, Jan, Feb, March, April and now May I've paid a few thousand dollars and spent a lot of time and still..the boat is not working right..thats when I finally made the decision to switch mechanics...I gave the old mechanic one more chance and thats when all these new problems cropped up..so yes, thank you for pointing out my faults but the time line of events that I outlined above are fact...sure Ive made some mistakes..and my wife told me to switch mechanics at the first sign of trouble..I didnt.and Im paying for it now..
Sure I am emotional and frustrated at this point..but my mission remains getting this boat fixed very, very soon...I'm still going to do my best to get that done.
I agree that I do react emotionally at this point because my plan, back in December was to do my off season servicing and then have a nice running boat for the season..instead, every month it has required more servicing and often times it was the same problem cropping up again. In terms of water in the fuel, I ran all of the fuel out of the boat as instructed, filled it to the top, added Marine Stabil..dumped fuel filters, poured the contents into a glass jar and was able to determine that water was out of the fuel.
So, over the course of Dec, Jan, Feb, March, April and now May I've paid a few thousand dollars and spent a lot of time and still..the boat is not working right..thats when I finally made the decision to switch mechanics...I gave the old mechanic one more chance and thats when all these new problems cropped up..so yes, thank you for pointing out my faults but the time line of events that I outlined above are fact...sure Ive made some mistakes..and my wife told me to switch mechanics at the first sign of trouble..I didnt.and Im paying for it now..
Sure I am emotional and frustrated at this point..but my mission remains getting this boat fixed very, very soon...I'm still going to do my best to get that done.
Wayne,
Take a breath and regroup. I have watched your videos and get that you love being on the water. You are correct when you say your emotions are playing a big part here. I get that, and also get you want to start to rock and roll with your season.
You really need to chill and let the mechanics solve your problem. If your boat is not ready by Memorial Day, then go sleep on it and enjoy that and plan around that.
The good thing is you have a much longer season than we have in NY, Gees Wayne, if you were here I think you might have killed you mechanic
Hope all works out and you are back on the water real soon.
Walter
Take a breath and regroup. I have watched your videos and get that you love being on the water. You are correct when you say your emotions are playing a big part here. I get that, and also get you want to start to rock and roll with your season.
You really need to chill and let the mechanics solve your problem. If your boat is not ready by Memorial Day, then go sleep on it and enjoy that and plan around that.
The good thing is you have a much longer season than we have in NY, Gees Wayne, if you were here I think you might have killed you mechanic
Hope all works out and you are back on the water real soon.
Walter
Wayne,
Did Diablo Marine show up today as promised? Do they think they can help get up and running in time for Memorial Day? It occurred to me that if the problem is the carburetors are actually the problem, you may be able to just purchase new ones and bolt them up yourself. t is a pretty simple install, especially if you still have the old ones installed so you see what the installed units look like as you're doing it.
Did Diablo Marine show up today as promised? Do they think they can help get up and running in time for Memorial Day? It occurred to me that if the problem is the carburetors are actually the problem, you may be able to just purchase new ones and bolt them up yourself. t is a pretty simple install, especially if you still have the old ones installed so you see what the installed units look like as you're doing it.
Diablo Marine has been great! Same with Boat US insurance. They were on the boat today. I dont quite have an ETA on when repairs will be complete or if they can even do the repairs this week. As far as Im concerned they have already impressed and gone above and beyond by just coming out to my boat on such short notice.
If they cant get to it this week then buying a whole new carb might be a great option for me. Im sure I can expedite shipping. I am semi handy, no where near a mechanic and I understand the air/fuel mixture and idle have to be adjusted just right. But if worse comes to worse I will have to figure it out.
Do you know of any place locally where I can buy a carb quickly if need be???
If they cant get to it this week then buying a whole new carb might be a great option for me. Im sure I can expedite shipping. I am semi handy, no where near a mechanic and I understand the air/fuel mixture and idle have to be adjusted just right. But if worse comes to worse I will have to figure it out.
Do you know of any place locally where I can buy a carb quickly if need be???