Our last child graduates college in May (with a degree in marine science - how cool is that!), and my wife and I promised ourselves that all of that money that used to go for tuition is going to be put to use on a larger boat. We are looking at express boats in the 36' to 41' range, and budget has us looking at older boats. I know that upkeep can be pretty expensive or time consuming or both, but I am comfortable with that. What I would really like to do is find a boat with "good bones" and fix her up the way i would like to. One boat that I have heard a lot about is the Trojan International series, before the company was sold to Carver. We like to travel with friends a lot, and I am wondering what the noise level is going to be in the cockpit. Is normal conversation possible, or will we screaming to make ourselves heard? Many of the ones I see online have Detroit diesels, Which I know are loud. I have also seen some Formulas for sale in the general size/age/price that we are looking for. How about the noise level of those? Any other suggestions?