What should I look for in a 36 Gulfstar

I need to personally thank Mixman Kurt for taking the time to visit and crawl around in this vessel for me. This saved me hours of driving, because if Kurt told me he thought it was a POS I wouldn't have went to investigate this vessel any further.
Thanks Kurt,
Bill.
 
IMO a brief run at wot to prove it is propped right and does not overheat is fine . I do that briefly with my boat but ten minutes is excessive IMO as is the idiotic idea of crash shifting into revers at high speed promoted by some surveyors.
 
I like spirited debate with good intentions guys.
Thanks,
Bill
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

IMO a brief run at wot to prove it is propped right and does not overheat is fine . I do that briefly with my boat but ten minutes is excessive IMO as is the idiotic idea of crash shifting into revers at high speed promoted by some surveyors.






I agree, crash shifting is idiotic.

But most diesel engine builders rate their engines to run at max RPM for at least 10 min. and some for much longer. So a brief run up might not be long enough for problems to show themselves. And a 10 min. max run up shouldn't hurt a properly running and maintained engine.
 
Well here is the 1st step and stage of the good news my Offer was accepted by the current owners.
There's an additional plus the canvas on the boat looked pretty good the owner had all new canvas done last year, she has it at her home and will be dropping it off at the broker.
Now onto the next phase it's currently on land that portion of the survey will be done then the boat will be readied and launched for the second part.
Here is a link to the vessel.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...m=broker&&hosturl=essexboats&&ywo=essexboats&
 
Bill: don't worry Capt Bill and I engage in debates from time to time but usually wind up close. Some day we will have a beer and get it on.

While I agree that WOT for ten minutes is within many specs it is important to note that makers are tightening those specs and today after too many warranty claims and are very specific about being able to hit or better, exceed rated WOT as a precondition to running heavily loaded. There are really only two reasons for running WOT at sea trial. Testing propping and testing cooling. I don't run my boat hard and don't expect a salesman or surveyor to do it either. The next owner can do what he wants.
I preach a bit on these topics because thee are so many myths about diesels among boaters, salesman and surveyors.

Nobody reads the conditions part of the ratings pages. Ever wonder why some ratings are for limited time operation per year and others unlimited? the Reason is warranty and meeting customers expectations. Joe sport fish wants to squeeze every pony out of his engines all day long and who cares if parts fly off. Well the maker does because his reputation will be killed by dock talk and airplanes pulling banners over boat shows. Commercial operators need to run at WOT for long periods so guess what; the engine is derated, they put a block under the gas pedal so the kids cant bust the engine before its time. Once the warranty is up of course they don't care what you do.
 
Congratulations Bill I wish you all the best as you Billify your new boat.

You know what needs to be done so do a sea trial and consider dispensing with the survey. That will pay for an AC. :D

Notice those round chines and rising hull aft. That is a real trawler. She will roll a bit but slip easily through the water, probably not at listed ten knots though.
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

Bill: don't worry Capt Bill and I engage in debates from time to time but usually wind up close. Some day we will have a beer and get it on.






:-) First ones on me.
 
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Originally posted by Capt. Bill1

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Originally posted by pdecat

Bill: don't worry Capt Bill and I engage in debates from time to time but usually wind up close. Some day we will have a beer and get it on.






:-) First ones on me.






Yep she's a displacment hull exactly what I have wanted. I have also wanted a pair of smaller twin diesels and a diesel generator.
I know you and Capt Bill are just that, debating. I sure have noticed a wide range of hp claims depending on the engines use commercial vs pleasure boating mainly with the new high RPM diesels.
Bill
 
Looks like a great loop boat! You may want to clean those props:)
 
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Originally posted by Audrey II

Looks like a great loop boat! You may want to clean those props:)





Those pictures are outdated the props were much cleaner and it had a fresh coat of bottom paint on her when I was there last week.
Bill
 
Looks like a nice boat and it seems to fit what you have been looking for perfectly! Best of luck I hope all goes well and you get to enjoy it for many years to come.
 
Thanks Dave, as long as it passes the survey and sea trial, then I can start adding electronics to her.
It is exactly what my wife and I were hoping to find. We won't get anywhere fast but it should be fun and fairly inexpensive to run.
Bill
 
That's a lotta boat for the price! 'Hope it works out for you.
 
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Originally posted by Kenpcfl

That's a lotta boat for the price! 'Hope it works out for you.




It is an it isn't. I missed one in NY that was the 1975 and had a pair of 80hp Lehmans. She surveyed well and sold. It went for $12k.
Again this is only a good deal after survey and sea trial. My offer was less than the asking price.
Bill
 
I once had a boat with a lot of teak inside. Some white enamel on bigger panels with sprucing up the teak trim modernized and improved the dark interior a lot IMO.
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

I once had a boat with a lot of teak inside. Some white enamel on bigger panels with sprucing up the teak trim modernized and improved the dark interior a lot IMO.






+1. But I'm partial to Grand Banks beige myself.
 
Agreed, I probably used an off white but that was in the last century.
 
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Originally posted by Capt. Bill1

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Originally posted by pdecat

I once had a boat with a lot of teak inside. Some white enamel on bigger panels with sprucing up the teak trim modernized and improved the dark interior a lot IMO.






+1. But I'm partial to Grand Banks beige myself.






Well once it passes survey and sea trial I am thinking of using white enamel to brighten up the interior. Some new carpet WILL BE NICE. But only after I am done installing a new ME head, PuraSan H-N-T , new sanitation hoses, electronics, communication, alternative solar and wind turbine charging and navigation equipment.
I'm actually thinking about removing the entire upper helm and structure for the real estate needed for a killer solar array and antenna farm.
I have seen a few 32' Grand Banks where the upper helm and skirt was removed making the vessel a Sedan Trawler.

I have almost everything needed as left overs or spares from Wireless One I'm thinking about renaming her "Wireless Too".
Bill
 
What ever you do you must learn to change the filters. Each installation is different and some engines will self prime and some not and the results may be different with full tanks than low tanks.

I could not see any racors in the pix.
 
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