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walterv

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In my hunt for the next boat, I go to YW, and see different specs for the same boats. Everything from the same motor with different HP, cruise and WOT way different, waste, water, and fuel capacity different, beams different, draft different.
Whats up with that???
I have seen the same ad claim different specs in that same ad, for example see below:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...rl=&hosturl=redlinemarine&&ywo=redlinemarine&

OK,
Is the fuel capacity 380gal or 400 gal?
Is the water capacity 65 gallons or 90?
Is the waste capacity 44 gallons or 50

Not nick picking, but come on already, having the same ad with conflicting information makes you wonder how accurate everything else is.

As someone on the hunt for another boat, sure makes it harder, point being, this boat, 65 gallons of fresh water would not be acceptable and would not look any further at this boat.

Just saying, having the wrong specs is bad enough, having conflicting specs in the same ad makes you wonder. :)

PS
The link above was just an example, so not picking on Redline.
 
Makers change stuff over production runs, brokers get data wrong or look up the wrong model, sellers don’t remember the data. It is a real zoo and the weird combinations of power and extras make apples to apples comparison difficult. Most every add states faster speed and lower weight that reality. Most buyers today dont seem to know much about the boats they consider or pay attention to anything except price. You need to do your own due diligence and take nothing stated as fact.
Caveat emptor
 
Bruce,
Get that, but conflicting info in the same ad, that's just not reading your ad you posted.
 
Walter

I would say that most often, brokers know very little and guess instead of 'working' to get the proper info.
 
When you've picked a target boat, assuming relatively recent production, you can often get best specs from the manufacturer's website.

Even those can change a bit (ours said 60-gallon holding tank, label on the installed tank says 40-gallons) but the builder can usually much closer to ground truth. :>)

-Chris
 
All true.

Sometimes specs change but mostly it is because the information provided by the owner is inaccurate. Not all brokers check the powerboat guide to see if what they were told is accurate.
 
More importantly, WTF is with making the link so long that it goes off the page???
 
Even your boat, you say water is 100 in 1 tank.
All the other 34c boats say 94 gallons and I think it should be two tanks.

I think a lot of the ads are copied and numbers changed. So I am sure the brokers don't make all the corrections they need to.
 
Even my owners manual has conflicting information from the actual and within itself. When I was looking for Trojans I searched Yachtworld for 44-45 foot and got something like 9 results. I searched 43-48 and got over 30. Go figure. There were all the same boat although varying years. The swim platform, if counted, can vary from 2-4 feet. In my owners manual it says there is a 105 gallon water tank centerline on one page and two 54 gallon tanks connected end to end on another. There are dozens of other inconsistancies as well. If the manufacturer can not get it right, how can a broker.
 
It's an old problem. We still don't have exact HP numbers for Freedom! The company said 340 hp, and some say based on what they see 410.
 
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Originally posted by HOGAN

More importantly, WTF is with making the link so long that it goes off the page???

Click to expand...


A long boat needs a long link. ..
 
Not looking for 100% accuracy, get the reasons why. But it is very strange IMO, when the numbers are way off, and in the same ad they are way off. Again, reason I mention this it when looking at other boats (like I have been doing), you need to look at three or four models to figure out what the real specs are. I guess when I look at boats, the specs are my first spot. Specs don't add up, I move forward. In other words, HP, beam, cruise speed, etc. When looking at a brand or model you know nothing about, I first review the specs to see if it fits. Will get to the glitter if the specs meet my criteria. In have seen my boat advertised with merc motors,now I know my boat never had such option. I have seen my boat advertised with 8.1 motors, but the HP was that of a 5.7 motor.

This will be the first used boat I ever bought (if it goes down), just amazed about the inconsistencies in info reported or stated.
 
To make matters more fun, earlier this year YW converted to the new boat wizard system. The new system auto fills in some of the technical specs (tankage, LOA, etc.) for models if it has the data on hand. This is often incorrect data and requires a broker to take the time to go through the ad during the creation phase or at least as soon as it is 100% done to correct any inconsistencies which some fail to do or don't realize they need to do.
 
Brokers add weasel words at the end of the listing so as to avoid all the detail/accuracy stuff.

"The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice."
 
The above disclaimer is added by yachtworld actually.

The new boatwizard system is horrible, I don't even use it.
 
In my experince, I've had brokers who listed a boat as diesel powered, when it was in fact a gasoline powered vessel. It is incrediable how poor the accuracy of the listings in Yachtworld. I've seen months after I called, and after some direct questioning which lead to my pointing out that the vessel is in fact gasoline powered it is still listed with the inaccuracies.
 
These advertisements are generally drafted & posted by sales people, right? Expect inaccuracies and inconsistencies, data and specifications are just not their thing. (sorry Sales People)

You will usually have to rely on external sources, other than the advertising sites for the correct information.
 
Yup, a broker won't spend 2 minutes getting the facts right on ANYTHING (including the facts necessary for a buyer to find a boat), while simultaneously taking 20 minutes to explain how business is down.

It's a personality thing. They are talented in "other" areas.

What, you want ME to sell your boat? Good one. I'll give you 30 minute sermon on the history of the boats engines and not once ask you to buy it.
 
Brokers often get listing specs wrong... If they can't get basic specs right, they re not going to get tankage right!

The builder should be to get you the right data within a reasonable 10%
 
I might add that I got into this because I was not happy with the local representation.

I agree that it isn't that hard to look it up. It also is not that hard to correct once it is discovered.
 
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