Yacht Controller

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So, I came across this nifty little device. Apparently it lets you control you boat via wireless controller. Now I can, without a doubt, see the usefulness of such a device (solo docking, etc..) however, I can also see idiots with too much money using this to cruise from the aft lounger, or sitting on the damn thing, or some other non-intended, unsafe uses of this thing. Any one ever seen it in use before? Thoughts?

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i don't think you can increase RPM so no risks of idiots running the boat from an aft lounger...

pretty expensive though, not sure i see the point... a set of controls on the aft deck does the job just fine on a larger boat.
 
One of the companies that made a device like that used to have and ad showing the operator standing ON the swim platform as he was backing his boat into a slip!

Advocating that seemed like a bit of a liablity issue to me.
 
thinning of the herd, Bill... nothing wrong with that! :-)
 
Maybe you could also run your boat around while sitting on the dock, that would be fun!

Seriously, I looked into this for a bit but really couldn't justify the price. It would be great for getting in the slip and also for anchoring.
 
Older guy at our marina has a remote for his bow thruster...he uses it to get grab his bow lines while at the bow. 40ish express in wide slip, handles the boat by himself...
 
If they'd add a button that connects to a storm mooring, that could save a lot of dinghy use.
 
These guys/gals can't control the boat from the helm, now what???????????????
 
most large cranes and travel lifts are remote control seems kinda strange at first but it seems to improve saftey as the operator has a better view of the lift
 
I keep wondering what's going to happen when people with more money than experience buy things such as this controller, IPS systems, Zeus systems, and the such and something breaks. It's a boat, things ALWAYS break. Nintendo/Wii, OK, you can stop the game and plug things back in. But in a 25kt wind while docking it might be best to actually know how to handle a boat manually.
 
Oh boy. Where do I start? First of all, I have a Yacht Controller installed on my Sea Ray 58 Sedan Bridge. I use it every time I am on the boat and I cannot imagine living without it. Can I handle the boat without it? Sure. I have been boating for more than 40 years and hold a USCG Masters license. I have taught sailing and boat handling since I was 18. I know how to handle a boat. As with most other pieces of equipment on the boat, the Yacht Controller is not necessary, but surely is a welcome tool. As such, it falls in a category with the windlass, chart plotter with electronic charts, AIS, and automatic fog horn, all items I could easily live without, but choose not to.

At 58 feet, my boat is still easy to handle with two people, and even OK for single handed operation in the right sea conditions. The single station helm is centerline on the fly bridge which gives wonderful un-obstructed views fore and aft while underway. But engine controls are mounted to starboard of the helm which does not give the helmsman the ability to see the port side of the boat. Visibility to starboard is better, I can see the side of the boat, but I have to walk away from the shifters to see crew on the starboard side deck. This may seem like a design flaw to some, but is actually the norm as vessel size increases. Larger vessels, fishing boats and even some sailboats are equipped with second or third helm stations (or partial control stations) to compensate for, or enhance, visibility. Larger still and you begin to see wing stations both port and starboard and/or control stations as the aft end of the upper deck.

When we bought Sea Gull, we looked at a lot of options for a second helm station. The Yacht Controller seemed to be the most elegant, versatile system on the market. We don’t have to go into the electronic versus mechanical argument since Sea Gull already had electronic primary controls. The only leap of faith was the wireless function (more on that later). We also looked at wired controls, both fixed position and with a long cord, but the wireless seemed more appropriate for us.
It’s usually just two of us operating the boat. We often have guests, but it is rare that we have people who can help handle the boat. The first place the Yacht Controller is helpful is when anchoring. I bring the boat to the position where I want to anchor and stop. I then walk to the bow and begin to lower the anchor. With the Yacht Controller in hand, I can bump the engines into reverse as the anchor chain pays out. Once the anchor is down and the right amount of scope is out, I can give the boat a good burst of reverse thrust to set the anchor. When it’s time to weigh anchor, the process is reversed. I can be at the bow with a foot on the windlass control, a hand on the Yacht Controller and the wash-down hose in the other hand. I bump the boat forward and bring up the anchor washing with fresh water as I go. Once the anchor is aboard, I can use the Yacht Controller to hold the boat in position while I get back to the bridge.

Docking is the place where the Yacht Controller really shines. At the very least it allows me to see the port side of the boat as we approach a dock. I am also free to move to the front of the fly bridge, to get a clear view below the bow or even to descend to the cockpit. Having this freedom of movement allows me to both control the boat and handle dock lines, essential for single-handed or even short-handed operation.

Remember, that with a boat of this size, close is not good enough. With even a little wind or current it is almost impossible to move the boat by manual brute force. You cannot haul the boat fore or aft along the dock or pull the bow or stern line to move the boat closer to the dock. All movement is done with engines (and bow thruster) in a slow, purposeful way. The Yacht Controller allows me to be in total control.

OK, so the one negative we found was last summer while cruising in the Chesapeake Bay. On two occasions the radio link between the Yacht Controller and its base station crapped out. This happened in Rock Hall, MD and in Annapolis at the worst possible moments – while backing into the dock. In both cases it took only seconds to take command back at the main controls and avoid any mishap. In talking with a technician at the company, these are areas known to have radio interference on the frequencies that the Yacht Controller uses. I wish I had known that before, but now I know. By the way, the tech service guy gave me his cell phone number in case I ever had another problem!

One final note: This is not a toy. People kid me all the time that I could just sit on the dock and send the boat out for a cruise. It sounds great, but there are inherent dangers too. When I am at the starboard quarter snubbing a spring line, I cannot see the port bow. When I am on the bow handling the anchor I cannot always see what is directly behind me. To compensate, we have a lookout on deck or on the bridge who keeps track of these blind spots. Like all of the other tools aboard, we use the Yacht Controller judiciously every day.
 
I think the Mythbusters were using a yacht controller this past Wednesday. Crashed the yacht, though.
 
I can, and do radio control my boat using a Raymarine auto pilot. It is an option that allows you to steer the boat remotely using a small hand held transmitter and receiver that also displays navigation data.
 
It might make a nice prank when you "borrow" it from your neighbor.
 
i would have to vote for a hard wired version of this device. although that has some mobility limitations, it lets you step away from the console for visibility, but is less likely to have RF interferance, which will invariably come at the worst moment, docking.
 
"Sorry I hit your boat. The battery in my remote died..."

Sea Gull, an observation not a criticism: If you already have lookouts, then you can control the boat from the helm.

Not the kind of tech I would want. I'm sure others will see it as a boon.
 
Sea Gull- That was a great hands-on report from someone with plenty of actual experience. I can see how this device can be a great help idle-speed docking /anchoring on a vessel the size of yours.
There have been lots of times I wish my Simrad wired-remote A/P had a shift function for use when slow-troll fishing. Thanks.
 
Two more comments:

1. The failsafe is back to neutral. If the battery dies, the radio link is lost, or you drop the handheld the engines instantly go back to neutral and the truster stops.
2. I understand from speaking with the YC people recently that my unit operates in the 900 Mhz range. They have an alternative that uses a different frequency (sorry can't recall it now) and are coming out with a new unit soon that will auto shift between 900 mhz and the other frequency if it encounters interference.

By the way, I have no stake in this - just a happy customer. However, they will send me a baseball cap if you say I referred you!
 
nice detailed feedback... but it didn't sway me :-)

sure, it goes back to neutral and thrusters off in case of a failure but getting back to the helm and reganing can be a 5 or 6 seconds delay, plus another second or two for the trannies to actually engage (most larger electronic diesels have such a delay). 8 to 10 seconds can be an eternity in close quarters.

when anchoring, i alwaus control my windlass from the flybridge, so that i get full control of the boat. I haven't done it yet, but i've seen a boat with a rinse nozle on the pulpit to solve that issue.

When docking alongside, unless it's blowing 25kts it's not big deal to come down to the spring lines... remember that a larger heavy boat isnt going to be blown away that easily. visibility? no big deal... i find that after a few times it's easy to judge the distance to a dock alongside by the angle, you dont' have to actually see the edge.

backing into a slip, a set of controls on the aft deck (or cockpit) works just as well.

and as you get into significnatly larger boats, say over 80, usually you'll have a crew on board anyway.

"cool" but still a gadget in my opinion.
 
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