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I went down to the Anchorage today to check out the J, K, L docks for my little boat.

Anything I should know about any of those?

I am leaning towards the J dock on the outside so my bow is facing the larger slips.

How close are any of the docks to the bathrooms? I know its pretty close to the pool and tennis courts.

Also, whats the deal with dock boxes there? Are they allowed on the floating dock or do they have to be up on the roadway? If they are up on the roadway is there any gentlemen agreement as to you parking behind your dock box or first come first serve type deal?

Thanks
 
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I don't know much about the floating docks, but will give it a stab based on my observations. First off the only dock in the AYC I would NOT recommend is G dock. G dock boarders the school yard and therefore kids jump the fence and either steal booze, party, or take stuff of the boats there. As far as a dock box, not sure there would be room for it on the floating dock. Maybe on the pavement, you should check with the office. Bathrooms are by the pool (main office by b dock) and on F/D dock, both look close to the same distance from the floaters. Let me find a map of the place and will post it.
 
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F60 is where the bathrooms are
the corner of 1c and B1 is where the other bathrooms are
 
Seems a lot of slips, is that normal?

Billy K.
 
I remember looking in there a couple of years back, and there were a lot of rentals back then too.
The rentals may or not be a good deal depending on where you are now and what you need.
It didn't seem like the rental was worth it to me personally back then. Buying was a much better idea. Then again, I'm not a fan of renting when there is an opportunity to buy anyway.
 
Dave, I think with the small boat I am better off on a floating dock (J,K,L). If I rent from AYC I cant keep the trailer there during the summer and winter.

Cheapest one I saw was 1800 from AYC. I can get a floating dock with trailer storeage for $1800..

Usually, I do not like renting, and I would totally buy. For the small boat, I cannot see spending 15-20 grand maybe more for a slip. It doesnt pay for a small 17 center console.

I am really leaning towards JKL, just need to see which slips are available. I was told to check back in March for that..

E dock would be nice, but I dont think they are floating docks...
 
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Dave, I think with the small boat I am better off on a floating dock (J,K,L). If I rent from AYC I cant keep the trailer there during the summer and winter.

Cheapest one I saw was 1800 from AYC. I can get a floating dock with trailer storeage for $1800..

Usually, I do not like renting, and I would totally buy. For the small boat, I cannot see spending 15-20 grand maybe more for a slip. It doesnt pay for a small 17 center console.

I am really leaning towards JKL, just need to see which slips are available. I was told to check back in March for that..

E dock would be nice, but I dont think they are floating docks...

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I see your logic, but the way I always looked at it was that I wasn't spending. More like I was depositing funds. The money I would make is the difference between the annual maintenance, and what I would have paid if I rented.
Surely I could do better with the money in the market, but the investment would not be as secure unless I invested in lower yielding bonds or something.
It will more than likely be worth more than you paid for it if you should ever decide to sell, so that would be added value.
 
Slips that size are like $12k. That s not lot of slips. There is 500 slips so its less than 10%.
 
John, I see your point.

If I could buy a slip for 10 grand or less which I doubt in AYC, yes its a no brainer for my small boat. Whose to say that its going to be worth more in a few years if I want to sell it. A slip thats only 7ft-9ft wide is only appealing to smaller boat. A slip is only worth how much someone is willing to pay.

Real Estate, I can do dealings with all day everyday, buying a slip is totally a new world for me. If AYC is asking 12K for a slip, is there room to negotiate? With the damage Sandy did, are slips really going to be selling? Also, if I own a slip, I still cannot keep my boat on a trailer for the winter at AYC. So ill be spending more money to store the trailer during the summer and winter. If I buy a slip do I really need a trailer? Sure. I travel with the boat up and down the east coast.

This summer I plan on taking it to NH, and will most likely spend the winter in Key West.

What are the taxes on the slip a year? Thats another factor.

Look at Jeffs property in wantagh, 3 boat slips, 40X20 property, 70 grand. taxes $150 a year. That would be the way to go, but there is no way to make money back on that property anytime soon. I saw it listed on craigslist again, so I know hes sitting with it. Im sure hes got some interest on the property as it is something different.

Heres another thought. If I buy at the AYC for argument sake, slip E5, great slip great location, but the slip owner next to me is a first class a hole, Im stuck there. Next season I cant just up and move. Im stuck there because I bought it.

If I rent that slip I could see what its like for a season before buying...

Ive never been in the position of needing to rent space before for my boats..I didnt think this would be as much of a process as it has turned out to be.
 
My first slip I rented before buying. My next slip I was so happy to get on d dock that I just bought it. Even if your neighbor is a nice guy this year he may be a ahole next.
Taxes are about $600 a year.
Owning saves you about $2k a year and if you sell for same money paid then its worth it.
They don't go down in value.
 
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My first slip I rented before buying. My next slip I was so happy to get on d dock that I just bought it. Even if your neighbor is a nice guy this year he may be a ahole next.
Taxes are about $600 a year.
Owning saves you about $2k a year and if you sell for same money paid then its worth it.
They don't go down in value.

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That is my thought process.
I had just about given up on finding a piece of property where I am now a few years back, and was actively looking to buy something in the Anchorage. I hated having to rent dock space.
At the last minute, a piece came up on my canal and I jumped on it. I paid more than I would have paid for a slip in the Anchorage, but the annual cost is less with a little more freedom to do what I want. I have a shed there that makes life easy for me, and the boat gets stored there all winter.
I'm lucky to have some great neighbors. My experience has been that although there are a couple of knuckleheads in the hobby, for the most part boaters are pretty good people who will usually go out of their way to help each other.
My Uncle has been on the canal for a long time, so I knew that I wanted to be there.
I'm sure that I could get more than I paid for it a few years back because they just don't come available that often. But I don't think I would consider selling it. It just wouldn't be worth it.
I wouldn't mind picking up another piece if the right deal came along so that I'd have it for my kids when the time comes.
If I hadn't bought where I did I would have gotten something in the Anchorage.
12K with $600 a year maintenance/taxes isn't a lot of money if it means you own the slip and are saving $1200 a year on dockage. Not many places you can park $12K and get back $1200 a year.
I also think that dock space is going to get harder to find as the years go by. There were a lot more marinas and boatyards 25 years ago.
 
That list of slips on CL for rent may not be that accurate, I own B-32, it has been rented and I already have the deposit. Other thing to consider when renting, or buying at the Anchorage are the fact that there is 24 hr security, parking directly behind your slip, plenty of parking for guests also. That becomes important if you take extended trips and need to be able to park more than one car safely for a few days. Additionally, the pool, clean bathrooms, and showers are a nice feature. The ability to work on your own boat, or bring in outside legitimate contractors is a plus too. I've been there since '96, it's a great place.
 
John, I would love to buy a property like you have. Your location is perfect.

If I am going to buy at AYC, I would want a floating dock. Finger piers are nice, but not at low tide when you are trying to get onto a 17ft center console..

Are there other sections of AYC besides J,K,L that have floating docks??
 
I think those are the only floaters.
Obviously if you buy one, you can add floating dock if you have room.
Another option there is the Hi Dri service, which is great for keeping boats clean!
 
Matt,
I would think the floaters would be less money in taxes. I think I am paying 650.00 year in taxes for my slip which is 15'8" usable beam. I am sure your capable of doing the math, it's really that simple. I am not sure how the math works out for the smaller slips, for larger slips the two I own, it makes a tremendous amount of sense to own as opposed to renting. Location and usable beam in the marina is a large determining factor on the value of a slip. I also don't think there would be much of an increase in the value of a smaller slip (trailer boat size slip), I could be wrong, but don't think so. Reasoning behind why I think this way is the rental income that can be derived from a slip is going to determine the value, with that said, how much rental is a person that has a trailer boat going to pay for a slip?. Now, if you had young kids, and would use the facilities at the AYC (pool, playground, etc), well that is an added value. If you have a trailer boat you can sleep on and want to use it like a summer home on the weekends, the the baths and showers is another added value.
I was thinking of getting a smaller boat like yours to have as toy to play with in the bay for the weekends I am a dock Mary,I thought about buying a little slip, never really dug that deep with it so as mentioned I really don't know how the math works out and what they "really" sell for. If you don't plan on hanging out on the boat at the dock, like Dave mentioned, you may want to see what they charge you for a rack.
 
Very interesting Dave, never thought about the rack option. That would be something to consider.

I suppose I could buy a larger slip, and but a u shape floating in there and have floats on both sides of the boat. I bet my neighbors would love that too!

All good points and many things to consider. Ill call AYC today and see what the deals are..

Thanks guys!

Oh, walter, If I am at AYC, keys will be in the boat, help yourself to the little boat whenever you want. You too Dave. Its a fun little boat.
 
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