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Why?
Why?
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MV is 60miles past bock & Nan is 27 past that!
Block Island Sound, Nantucket sound and oh yeah the Atlantic can be non-forgiving
If you have any thoughts about the safety of your family you should not think of doing this
What was it Les told us to do..........
Hey mike,
We went fishing in my dink last year out of blk... it was like a lake .... I sooo wanted to dink to montauk...... TEMPting....but then reality set in....
We have had more bad experiences then good going to blk.... Radar is useless in that bermuda triangle of weather... ONE YEAR we had fog... zero visablity.. Hardest rain i ever experienced and wind.... going home... it was lake....
That place is spooked....
Hey mike,
We went fishing in my dink last year out of blk... it was like a lake .... I sooo wanted to dink to montauk...... TEMPting....but then reality set in....
We have had more bad experiences then good going to blk.... Radar is useless in that bermuda triangle of weather... ONE YEAR we had fog... zero visablity.. Hardest rain i ever experienced and wind.... going home... it was lake....
That place is spooked....
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Oh, I see... Now that LMAOROF makes sense! I'm not tied to camping at Montauk. If I was going to Marth'a Vineyard or Nantucket, I'd camp somewhere closer, like Cape Cod or something. I'm just looking for an adventure that's somewhat managable in a 21' bowrider.
It looks like MV and Nantucket are about 10-15 miles from the southern side of Cape Cod. Just getting bored with the lake trips and the occasional salty bay trip.
It looks like MV and Nantucket are about 10-15 miles from the southern side of Cape Cod. Just getting bored with the lake trips and the occasional salty bay trip.
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Flounder,
Are there any good sized rivers in your area? If so, get yourself a Corp of Engineers map of the area you intend to use and try the river. It's far more interesting than a lake and less dangerous than tackling the ocean.
I caution you: If you navigate a river, pay attention to buoy placement and their meaning. Back eddys which tell you where shallow water is, and be aware that shoaling is a constant problem with moving water. Stay within the designated navigation channel. Keep an eye peeled for deadheads...which can be very tricky to spot in a light chop, or even better, submerged deadheads...friggin' logs that are floating just under the surface. Normally, the current steers them to shallows, but snags occur and they hang up. Buoys do come off station because of flooding, current or impact, so don't take them as gospel. Water always moves faster towards the shallows and slow in the deep part of the channel, unless you boat after flood stage...which I have, but that's another challenge we're not going to talk about right now.
In any event, go slowly until you understand the mechanics of river navigation.
Anyway, that's it in a nutshell. Not so bad is it?
PS. If you use the river...start your journey going upbound. If you have troubles and the boat stops working, you'll drift back to your launch point.
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Bowriders in the ocean are the fastest way to kill your family. Waves come over the front, fill it, and sink you faster than you can yell HELP!
DO NOT USE A BOWRIDER OUTSIDE PROTECTED BAYS IN THE OCEAN! Period.
Boat on lakes until you learn to read an atlas, charts and take a bunch of Power Squadron courses. But you knew that.
I am responding to the question only to possibly avoid another boating tragedy and increased insurance rates for the rest of us.
DO NOT USE A BOWRIDER OUTSIDE PROTECTED BAYS IN THE OCEAN! Period.
Boat on lakes until you learn to read an atlas, charts and take a bunch of Power Squadron courses. But you knew that.
I am responding to the question only to possibly avoid another boating tragedy and increased insurance rates for the rest of us.
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Every time I go to Block the weather changes within a couple of hours. I have Radar, Redundant GPS, Auto fog horn, and I still am very cautious about when I travel. From MT point it may be around 18 miles, but from the docks it is more.
IMO not for a 21' bow rider. Can it be done, yes but not without a possible dilemma.
The perfect day is only perfect until the perfect storm. [:-thumbd]
IMO not for a 21' bow rider. Can it be done, yes but not without a possible dilemma.
The perfect day is only perfect until the perfect storm. [:-thumbd]
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Yeah, it is always fun, NOT, when a dense fog bank drops on you from the clear sky halfway to Block. You can't see more than a few feet. Add in 8 foot seas from a sudden wind squall, mix in an overloaded 21 foot bowrider, and you have another dead family.
And we would then have to have an obituary thread about it. All that speculation about why you and your family died.
Doing it this way we can accuse you of doing something stuipd and not have to worry about offending anyone because your dead!
Doing it this way we can accuse you of doing something stuipd and not have to worry about offending anyone because your dead!
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If you are indeed serious about this camping adventure - this is my .02. You can bring your boat to RI and camp at Fort Getty in Jamestown. You will have access to a plethera of boat ramps that will put you on Narragansett Bay. While open to the open ocean, the bay is still protected and good boating can be had on most days. However, the bay can be tricky as well - I have seen the east passage completely fogged in while the West passage was crystal clear - and vice versa.
The bay gives you many great boating opportunites ranging from numerous coves to anchor out in (one of them being Dutch Island which is just off of Fort Getty). If fishing is your thing, Blues and Stripers are plentiful in the bay as well. You would also be conveniently located near Newport, as well as Narragansett - where you can catch a FERRY to Block Island. As much as you will be tempted - you should avoid heading out the West Passage to Block Island in your bow rider.
You will need to learn chart reading as the bay certainly has its obstructions ranging from sunken boilers to some pretty nasty rocks. There is also an active shipping channel to be aware of. You should also note the off limits US NAVY areas - do not worry - if you journey in there you will promptly be met by a RIB with way more power than you and some serious looking 20 something year olds with automatic weapons - you will get the message quickly.
The bay is a great way to introduce you to salt water or "ocean" boating with more protection and security than crossing the sound to Block Island or Marthas Vineyard, or Nantucket.
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Wow, lots of great advice everyone, especially the ones that indicate that I'll kill myself and my family. Thanks!
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YO, ground control to Bob,
You ask "Is this a good idea?" in your first post and most everyone pretty much says it not a good Idea, and when you keep pushing, the replies get stronger that you and your Family would be in danger, but you keep going there.
And then you have a sarcastic answer like this.
No wonder most people here think you’re a troll
You’re like that piece of corn that gets stuck in your teeth and all you think about is spitting it out and getting on with your life
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I just can't believe that everyone who makes the trip to Block Island on a bowrider is placing their life in danger. I'm looking for advice on how to best do it. I'm sure there are right and wrong things to do, and I'm trying to gather that info. Thanks to those of you who gave thoughtful advice, both pro and con, I appreciate honest answers.
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Bob:
With all do respect. You have no ocean boating experience and ask if you should take a 21' bow rider to Block Island. people with combined 100+ years of boating the local waters to Block Island advise you against this. Everyone points out very good points such as changing weather conditions, fog, some nasty sea's, etc. Yet as noted you still push on. Bottom line is a person with no ocean experience has no business making their first trip in the ocean on a 21' bow rider to Block Island.
However, I will help put it in perspective - here is a picture from 2006 of the Block Island FERRY. Please tell us how your 21' bow rider would fare in these conditions?
With all do respect. You have no ocean boating experience and ask if you should take a 21' bow rider to Block Island. people with combined 100+ years of boating the local waters to Block Island advise you against this. Everyone points out very good points such as changing weather conditions, fog, some nasty sea's, etc. Yet as noted you still push on. Bottom line is a person with no ocean experience has no business making their first trip in the ocean on a 21' bow rider to Block Island.
However, I will help put it in perspective - here is a picture from 2006 of the Block Island FERRY. Please tell us how your 21' bow rider would fare in these conditions?
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Obviously, a 21' bowrider would not fair well in the conditions above. I would never venture out in that kind of weather. That's why I'm inquiring about camping in the area of LI and southern CT or RI, and then waiting for that perfect day to make a quich 45 minute run over to Block Island, maybe stop in and get an ice cream, and then return 2 or 3 hours later.
I would think that I could watch weather reports and find a 4-5 hour window that would allow me to do this, no?
Here's a picture of LI Sound on a nice day. Could this last for 4-5 hours? Could my 21' bowrider handle THIS:
I would think that I could watch weather reports and find a 4-5 hour window that would allow me to do this, no?
Here's a picture of LI Sound on a nice day. Could this last for 4-5 hours? Could my 21' bowrider handle THIS:
In The Know is right on, and I've been in Block Island Sound conditions as shown in that ferry photo.
On the other hand, conditions are sometimes very calm, as shown in this photo from last year:
The point we're making though, is that conditions can change at any time - putting you, and your family in peril . . . not to mention the SAR costs from the USCG.
Steve
On the other hand, conditions are sometimes very calm, as shown in this photo from last year:
The point we're making though, is that conditions can change at any time - putting you, and your family in peril . . . not to mention the SAR costs from the USCG.
Steve
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TrueBlue, that's a great picture. I think THAT day would have been a perfect day to give it a try.
Anyone who's been to Block Island, have you ever seen a 21' (or smaller, perhaps) bowrider there? All I'm asking is how'd they do it. I need that information.
Anyone who's been to Block Island, have you ever seen a 21' (or smaller, perhaps) bowrider there? All I'm asking is how'd they do it. I need that information.
