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U.S. Navy crew(s) being held by Iran who "claims" the Navy
boat(s) were in their territorial waters. That's all I know right now. This just came on as breaking news.
 
Boats were disabled and drifted into Iranian waters. Iran has assured their immediate release so they can be on their way.
 
Today's web news says Iran accepted USN's apology and released the crews.
 
There's more to this than meets the eye or was reported.
 
I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.
 
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Originally posted by Phillbo

I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.

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Much deeper than that.

Both boats break in the same place at the same time? Both boats lose contact with the fleet at the same time? They "drifted" into national waters. Both boats had anchors. The crew is highly specialized and unless there was some really bad fuel the odds on 4 Yanmars going Tango Oscar simultaneously is slim.
 
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Originally posted by KiDa

quote:
Originally posted by Phillbo

I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.

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Much deeper than that.

Both boats break in the same place at the same time? Both boats lose contact with the fleet at the same time? They "drifted" into national waters. Both boats had anchors. The crew is highly specialized and unless there was some really bad fuel the odds on 4 Yanmars going Tango Oscar simultaneously is slim.

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Just saw a comment on a post on the MARSEC4 Facebook
page that at first seemed conspiracy theoryish, but is still an interesting thought. The gist of it was the suggestion that maybe it was an intentional stunt to show Iran can be trusted to play by the rules.

I'm not sure it would be plausible to pull off something like that and keep it under wraps, but it's an interesting thought that would make sense of a lot of what doesn't make sense.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if this administration actually did orchestrate a stunt like this; time will tell..
 
That makes as much sense as saying the military/political opposition orchestrated it in the hope of proving that they couldn't be trusted, thereby sabotaging the deal.

Either way, it would've meant the possible sacrifice of 10 men to prove a point. Conspiracy theories are always fun, 'cause they can never be disproven.

My .02
 
Wonder if Kerry had to provide some nice quid pro quo US GiveAways to his Iranian contact & his government to help expedite the quick release after those very suspicious circumstances?
 
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Originally posted by JoLin

That makes as much sense as saying the military/political opposition orchestrated it in the hope of proving that they couldn't be trusted, thereby sabotaging the deal.

Either way, it would've meant the possible sacrifice of 10 men to prove a point. Conspiracy theories are always fun, 'cause they can never be disproven.

My .02

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10 people....Hell, there's a whole division on and just below the 38th parallel. That's 15,000 soldiers. What are their odds if Kim Jung Wingnut goes crazy like his old man did over a friggin' poplar tree in '76.

There's a carrier battle group in the gulf. That's a lot of iron in a pond that's difficult to navigate in a frigate.

It just doesn't add up to me.
 
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Originally posted by JoLin

That makes as much sense as saying the military/political opposition orchestrated it in the hope of proving that they couldn't be trusted, thereby sabotaging the deal.

Either way, it would've meant the possible sacrifice of 10 men to prove a point. Conspiracy theories are always fun, 'cause they can never be disproven.

My .02

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I'm not saying it's even remotely likely, just an interesting notion that would account for the odd circumstances.

Latest news is a nav error:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...l-problem-put-us-boats-in-iranian-waters.html
 
Let's see. You got GPS, two way comm with a carrier battle group who should have you on their screens in the CIC via IFF and you "blunder into Iranian waters". Riiigggght,
 
quote:
Originally posted by JoLin

That makes as much sense as saying the military/political opposition orchestrated it in the hope of proving that they couldn't be trusted, thereby sabotaging the deal.

Either way, it would've meant the possible sacrifice of 10 men to prove a point. Conspiracy theories are always fun, 'cause they can never be disproven.

My .02

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the skinny community disorganizer would have no problem sacrificing twice
that number to prove he is right
 
Agree Gregg, it is a strange story. If one boat completely broke down surely the other could tow it and would have operating electronics.
 
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the skinny community disorganizer would have no problem sacrificing twice
that number to prove he is right
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Like I said, conspiracy theories are fun because those that want to believe them don't require any logic or proof. 'It coulda happened' seems to be enough.

On the flip side, I read 'Seven Days in May' a long time ago. That could happen, too. Maybe it already has and we just don't know it because it's been covered up so well.

Fun times...
 
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Originally posted by KiDa

quote:
Originally posted by Phillbo

I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.

Click to expand...


Much deeper than that.

Both boats break in the same place at the same time? Both boats lose contact with the fleet at the same time? They "drifted" into national waters. Both boats had anchors. The crew is highly specialized and unless there was some really bad fuel the odds on 4 Yanmars going Tango Oscar simultaneously is slim.

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BING BING BING Correct answer!!

With all the electronic and other gear on these two boats they "drifted" into enemy waters?

Why did they not fight for their ship? Orders directly from the top to surrender??

Bull****

A coverup worthy of Benghazi fame.
 
Conspiracy theories are sexy, but I bet we find that its something far more boring like loss of situational awareness. One boat broke down for whatever reason and everyone was too busy with "something else" to watch the gps and the approaching Iranians. Once they knew what was happening, they would be wrong to use deadly force inside another country's territorial waters. Its a literal act of war.
 
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