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Originally posted by Gregory S
Mike has it exactly right. The old XO was responsible for training. Old C.O. was ultimately the one responsible, but he retired. Like I said, the new Commander had to know it was going to be a short tour.
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Originally posted by KiDa
Still not buying it the whole story. The navy has been crucifying too many for bizarre reasons for the last 4-5 years.
Unless you are part of a reduction in force, you carry what are affectionately known as "hip pocket orders". You are available for recall for any purpose up to the age of 55. It was a way around "retirement" pay at a young age. From "retirement" til age 55 one receives retainer pay. At 55 you go on the retired rolls. It has to do with the color of money that pays you. O8 and above never go on the retired rolls.
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Originally posted by gcolton
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Originally posted by KiDa
Still not buying it the whole story. The navy has been crucifying too many for bizarre reasons for the last 4-5 years.
Unless you are part of a reduction in force, you carry what are affectionately known as "hip pocket orders". You are available for recall for any purpose up to the age of 55. It was a way around "retirement" pay at a young age. From "retirement" til age 55 one receives retainer pay. At 55 you go on the retired rolls. It has to do with the color of money that pays you. O8 and above never go on the retired rolls.
What???
I have never heard of what you are describing.
There is a program where a person leaves active duty and then serves in the guard/reserves until reaching retirement age.
Is this what you are writing about?
George
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Originally posted by WALSHIE
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...s-sailors-will-shock-nation.html?intcmp=hpbt1
The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration.
Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military.
“I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.”
Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law.
“I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.”
Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported.
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Originally posted by Capt. Bill1
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Originally posted by Joeshoes
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Originally posted by KiDa
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Originally posted by Phillbo
I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.
Much deeper than that.
Both boats break in the same place at the same time? Both boats lose contact with the fleet at the same time? They "drifted" into national waters. Both boats had anchors. The crew is highly specialized and unless there was some really bad fuel the odds on 4 Yanmars going Tango Oscar simultaneously is slim.
BING BING BING Correct answer!!
With all the electronic and other gear on these two boats they "drifted" into enemy waters?
Why did they not fight for their ship? Orders directly from the top to surrender??
Bull****
A coverup worthy of Benghazi fame.
LOL.
Tin foil hat sales must be up along with guns. Or is it a BOGO kinda deal these days?
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Originally posted by Joeshoes
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Originally posted by Capt. Bill1
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Originally posted by Joeshoes
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Originally posted by KiDa
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Originally posted by Phillbo
I'm sure there was more to it given the fact the boats were transporting Seals.
Much deeper than that.
Both boats break in the same place at the same time? Both boats lose contact with the fleet at the same time? They "drifted" into national waters. Both boats had anchors. The crew is highly specialized and unless there was some really bad fuel the odds on 4 Yanmars going Tango Oscar simultaneously is slim.
BING BING BING Correct answer!!
With all the electronic and other gear on these two boats they "drifted" into enemy waters?
Why did they not fight for their ship? Orders directly from the top to surrender??
Bull****
A coverup worthy of Benghazi fame.
LOL.
Tin foil hat sales must be up along with guns. Or is it a BOGO kinda deal these days?
Hey Bill you talk about your funny hat but you do not address the legitimate observations.
The whole debacle is a disgrace.
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Originally posted by Kevdon22
Does anyone think Benghazi was caused by the Video as claimed by the administration and told to the parents of the dead? Nobody died at Watergate, help was not even attempted at Benghazi, although many said they were ready to help. Why was this covered up?
This is only possible with a complicit media.
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Originally posted by KiDa
The coverup continues.
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Originally posted by KiDa
Your last command at sea was when, George?