For anyone who's built their own boat....

Hey!
I built something that looked like that one time. But the Dog wouldn't go in it!
 
Back at this boat building stuff after a lil' break.

Yesterday's session involved mixing up too much epoxy glop and having it go to waste. Just couldn't get it on the boat quick 'nuff. Next time, smaller batches. We learn as we go.

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The transom went up amazingly easy compared to the bow.

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I'll be gluing the side to the bottom panels this afternoon.
 
Boots was nowhere around last night so I had to press the Admiral into action. She mixed the glue and filled the kerfs & seams while I supervised. I always say "teamwork is good work". Ayup, that's what I always say!

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I gotta tell ya, she was all business. Look at that concentration!

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The kerfs on the outside of the panel are a PITA. There's a hump, just off to the left of the picture above, where it didn't quite bend correctly. Not a big deal, I think I'll stick the bow thruster tube in there!

Keel sides and seam taping this weekend.
 
There's some jobs that I've enjoyed so much I decided, well, the boat decided, I had better do again!

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It went off like a shotgun! KaBoom! Scared the crap outta me. I was just getting ready to fill the last few holes before I sanded down the seams for taping. Ah ****!

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You can see where it was the glue that mostly broke and it only pulled away from the plywood in a few places. I guess that's good, the glue is doing it's job.

So from there it was back to the belt sander, grinder, jig saw and drill to get ready to strap & stitch the panels back together. Guess I'll be leaving some stitches in right to the taping to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sucks too 'cause it's getting colder and takes the epoxy forever to kick off.

Back to the drawing board. Standby....
 
THAT SUCKS

Everything is looking great Rick, you have the patience of a saint.

Walter

Very nice that your wife is involved, I like that !
 
Well!! "Nuthin's worth doin unless you can do it twice the first time!"

Two thing about that bother me a little bit.
ONE: Why'd a thing like that happen at all?
TWO: lordy aint you lucky it happened in your Blue Ice Castle, and not out on the briny deep!
 
Thanks Walter. I try to get her involved in everything I can for the sake of my own sanity! :-)

Well Thud I guess I under estimated the tension in the panels. I was pulling the stitches and filling the holes and was just about to fiberglass tape the seams. Guess I pulled one too many zip ties and *Sproing!*. Live and learn I guess. I don't think that'd ever happen once the hull is glassed on both sides unless I hit an iceberg. ;-) Yeah, I know, famous last words.

If Mother Nature doesn't give us any more warm days that'll pretty much be it for boat building this year. Only 50 degs here today so no epoxy work that's for sure.
 
We are showing signs of an early winter down here. Even if you get a La NIna year, it's gonna be too cold to work that glass magic out there.
Schedule for "NO MORE" nonsense in the Man-Cave.

:) Maybe the Stitch n' Glue needs more Stitches?
 
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Originally posted by Thudpucker

:) Maybe the Stitch n' Glue needs more Stitches?
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Just one more Thud. The last one I pulled out just before it went "Sproing!" ;-)
 
This time of year I can get it comfortable to work in with a propane and an electric heater. In the dead of winter, no way. It'd cost a fortune to head its so full of holes! :-) That's ok, I need the winter to save money for more boat stuff. I have a few small projects to tinker with over the winter to keep me out of trouble.

Anywho.... All stitched back up and nowhere to go (I hope)!

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Got the heat on in the shed and should be warm 'nuff to do some gluin' this afternoon. Standby.....
 
When building a carvel or clinker planked boat you would include a stem at the bow where the two sides join. This provides a solid and structural surface for the planks to be fastened where there is a great deal of torsion. Molding a stem in wood would add a lot of work but will provide a great deal of strength.
 
OK, probably a silly question... but wouldn't you want some 2x2 or even 2x4 wood blocking inside along the keel to serve as a cleat that you can glue and screw the panels to? If the screws are then under the fiberglass, they would be protected from water... or would they push through with movement? It just seems like if there is that much pressure on the panels to come apart, I would be nervous that the fiberglass alone would not be sufficient overtime.

--Rick
 
I've thought about adding a stem for strength and cosmetics. My friends Bolger Windemere has a false stem and it looks nice.

The process described by the designer doesn't call for any screws although I and other builders have had to resort to them just for temporary clamping pressure to get the ply to conform to the curves. I wouldn't leave any under the glass for any reason. There's been enough of this model built so far with no problems springing panels so I'm confident it'll work. I just have to be quicker getting the tape on the seams. They're definitely not going anywhere now. I glued them from the inside as well. Normally that step is left till the hull is flipped.

In total the bow will be enclosed with 2 layers of 12 oz of biaxial tape, 1 layer of 1708 biaxial fabric, 1 layer of 18 oz double bias fabric, 1 layer of 22 oz Saertex triaxial fabric (carbon fiber) and 1 layer of 10 oz satin fabric. Inside it'll have almost exactly the same except for two layers of Saertex and no satin. If that can't hold the plywood together I don't know what will.

The keel will be the same except the two layers of Saertex will be on the outside.
 
Your the expert so I'm only asking out of curiosity.... Why wouldn't you tape the seems prior to removing the ties. Or at least leaving half the ties in. That is a lot of force only being held by the adhesive strenght of the glue along a very small surface area. The overlapping tape would seem to provide a lot more stregth... Then grind out the remaining ties once the whole thing has set up and glass over the whole thing again...

Long term I wouldn't be worried, eventually I would thing the would panels would "take the bend" and the internal stress would go down over time.
 
It looks like you have a good week of warm weather ahead of you to get a few jobs done before you shut it down for the winter
 
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Originally posted by Prospective

Your the expert so I'm only asking out of curiosity.... Why wouldn't you tape the seems prior to removing the ties. Or at least leaving half the ties in. That is a lot of force only being held by the adhesive strenght of the glue along a very small surface area. The overlapping tape would seem to provide a lot more stregth... Then grind out the remaining ties once the whole thing has set up and glass over the whole thing again...

Long term I wouldn't be worried, eventually I would thing the would panels would "take the bend" and the internal stress would go down over time.

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I'm no expert! ;-) I make this all up as I go along. I do have the advantage of following some previous builds though.

The tape inbetween the stitches idea came to light after this little incident. I'm going to give it a try. It just means some extra fairing afterwards that's all.

The ties are nylon and the epoxy won't stick to them so they're easy to pull out.

This thing has been an education from the start. I learn something new every time I work on it. Just wait till I get to the bow thruster tunnel installation! :-)
 
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