Holding Tank Replacement

Having a freshwater head will also go a long way to keeping head odors to a minimum.
The original head on my boat was salt/ brackish when I replaced and upgraded my holding tank and hoses I converted to a freshwater head.
Bill
 
Well if you're going to go thru all the trouble, ou m ya want I consider putting a fiberglass tank instead of the thin walled poly especially since the new ones may not be as good as the older one. Overall parts and material quality have not gone up in the past 15 years... If you stick to poly then At least make sure it is from a reputable manufacturer and check the thickness. Don't let the yard find the cheapest they can find.
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Well if you're going to go thru all the trouble, ou m ya want I consider putting a fiberglass tank instead of the thin walled poly especially since the new ones may not be as good as the older one. Overall parts and material quality have not gone up in the past 15 years... If you stick to poly then At least make sure it is from a reputable manufacturer and check the thickness. Don't let the yard find the cheapest they can find.





I purchased my own Poly waste tank only after investigating size, fitting locations, quality and thickness.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Well if you're going to go thru all the trouble, ou m ya want I consider putting a fiberglass tank instead of the thin walled poly especially since the new ones may not be as good as the older one. Overall parts and material quality have not gone up in the past 15 years... If you stick to poly then At least make sure it is from a reputable manufacturer and check the thickness. Don't let the yard find the cheapest they can find.




Agree - that has indeed been discussed.

Thanks
 
I replaced the tank on my last boat as it had outlived its usefulness and I was getting odors permeating my boat on occasion.
I replaced with a stainless steel tank and went from a 40 gallon to a 180gallon. The cost difference in the size was minimal so I figured I might as well use all the room I could. I never filled it, but it was always nice to know on long trips that I wasn't ever going to fill it.
We replaced all the hoses and used PVC where possible, which lowered my costs significantly and made the job pretty easy. I used Sealand hose for what I had to use hose for.

To keep smells to a minimum I lit a "lamp Berge" that I use for killing cigar smells. This really helped. I also used a product called Pure Ayr in a fogger that worked incredibly.

I've since found another product, can't remember the name, in cigar stores. It's a waxy puck in a plastic container (they even make a small bucket size), and you open that and it sucks the smells away really effectively. I used that when I had to open my holding tank last year to fix the tank watch monitor probes.
 
What timing...Paul, I just removed my holding tank a few weeks ago along with the hoses, etc.
I haven't replaced with new yet but although I had replaced most of the hoses from the toilet to the tank about 5 years ago, I had the same old tank, about 25 years old I figure.

As soon as I removed the nasty tank and other hoses, the boat was noticeably cleaner smelling.
Below is the 20 gallon tank and hoses I ripped out. Have fun!

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Originally posted by Reel Antsy

What timing...Paul, I just removed my holding tank a few weeks ago along with the hoses, etc.
I haven't replaced with new yet but although I had replaced most of the hoses from the toilet to the tank about 5 years ago, I had the same old tank, about 25 years old I figure.

As soon as I removed the nasty tank and other hoses, the boat was noticeably cleaner smelling.
Below is the 20 gallon tank and hoses I ripped out. Have fun!

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Jamie - That is perfect! I have to say that your tank looks better than mine does! Mine is not as white as that - and I suspect it has to do with mine originally being a salt water boat with raw water flush.

So glad to hear of your improvement in cabin smell. Let's face it, it's one of the most odor prone aspects of all our boat systems! Glad for you on the new incoming parts. Good luck with everything and thanks for sharing.

P.S. I am a total wimp when it comes down to projects like this. I am having my shop handle it!

Cheers,
Paul
 
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Originally posted by praetorian

I replaced the tank on my last boat as it had outlived its usefulness and I was getting odors permeating my boat on occasion.
I replaced with a stainless steel tank and went from a 40 gallon to a 180gallon. The cost difference in the size was minimal so I figured I might as well use all the room I could. I never filled it, but it was always nice to know on long trips that I wasn't ever going to fill it.
We replaced all the hoses and used PVC where possible, which lowered my costs significantly and made the job pretty easy. I used Sealand hose for what I had to use hose for.

To keep smells to a minimum I lit a "lamp Berge" that I use for killing cigar smells. This really helped. I also used a product called Pure Ayr in a fogger that worked incredibly.

I've since found another product, can't remember the name, in cigar stores. It's a waxy puck in a plastic container (they even make a small bucket size), and you open that and it sucks the smells away really effectively. I used that when I had to open my holding tank last year to fix the tank watch monitor probes.




Good info - thank you! I use those gel tubs you can get and have found they work quite well too. They sound similar to what you are referencing. The most effective one I have used was one that smelled like cedar to my surprise. I thought the citrus ones would work best.
 
I'm not sure what mine smell like. They are quite strong, so I don't use them unless the smell I'm trying to get rid of is strong too.

The Lampe Berge units are fantastic things on a boat. I cook extensively in the galley, and while the last owner put in an incredible exhaust fan (takes up half a closet next to the galley), smells still permeat the boat. I often light the lamp up as I'm cooking.

http://www.lampeberger.us/

They have a non-scented oil, which is what I use. My nose is very sensitive. On our old boat my wife would light it as soon as we arrived at the boat for 30 minutes or so, and every time she cleaned the boat. We now have them at home and she lights it when she hears the stove exhaust go on or whenever she cleans the house. They really are useful.

I used to use them also for smoking on the boat. I'd occasionally smoke a cigar and these really helped. The new boat is so well sealed that smoking anywhere onboard is terrible.

One other thing as far as holding tanks. I've tried a bunch of different holding tank sensors. The ones you stick on the outside, custom tubes that go in the tank, the tankwatch (worst for me so far), and late last year I put in an ultrasonic N2k unit from maretron. This one has actually worked flawlessly and it's the only one that has!

I do miss the 200+ gallon unit on my last boat when my wife would ask how full the tank was and I could say no where near full!
 
I replaced all of my 25 YO lines and the tank a few years back. The lines I knew were a problem, but I was surprised how badly the tank itself had permeated. It can and does happen.
 
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Originally posted by praetorian

I'm not sure what mine smell like. They are quite strong, so I don't use them unless the smell I'm trying to get rid of is strong too.

The Lampe Berge units are fantastic things on a boat. I cook extensively in the galley, and while the last owner put in an incredible exhaust fan (takes up half a closet next to the galley), smells still permeat the boat. I often light the lamp up as I'm cooking.

http://www.lampeberger.us/

They have a non-scented oil, which is what I use. My nose is very sensitive. On our old boat my wife would light it as soon as we arrived at the boat for 30 minutes or so, and every time she cleaned the boat. We now have them at home and she lights it when she hears the stove exhaust go on or whenever she cleans the house. They really are useful.

I used to use them also for smoking on the boat. I'd occasionally smoke a cigar and these really helped. The new boat is so well sealed that smoking anywhere onboard is terrible.

One other thing as far as holding tanks. I've tried a bunch of different holding tank sensors. The ones you stick on the outside, custom tubes that go in the tank, the tankwatch (worst for me so far), and late last year I put in an ultrasonic N2k unit from maretron. This one has actually worked flawlessly and it's the only one that has!

I do miss the 200+ gallon unit on my last boat when my wife would ask how full the tank was and I could say no where near full!




Very interesting stuff. Yup, I have a Tankwatch on there now. I can't stand that the full light is either on or off. Kind of worthless information. You get to the point where you're just holding your breath to see if the light comes on when you flush!
 
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Originally posted by Ghost

I replaced all of my 25 YO lines and the tank a few years back. The lines I knew were a problem, but I was surprised how badly the tank itself had permeated. It can and does happen.




Thanks Ghost!
 
Why not power wash the tank. Make sure you check the wood under the tank that support it. I replaced all my wood that was under the holding tank and generator with starboard.
 
Let me say first that I realize the first step in getteing rid of offesive odors is to remove the source and eliminate the future production of offensive odors as much as possible.
That being said I am again going to recomend a product that can remove(not cover up) offensive odors that may have permeated into parts of your boat and tend to linger.
The product is Joy Mangano's Forever Fragrant. I've used this product in our home and boat for many years and it really works in eliminating odors and lasts for two years.
 
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Originally posted by Salvatore356

Why not power wash the tank. Make sure you check the wood under the tank that support it. I replaced all my wood that was under the holding tank and generator with starboard.




It's getting replaced. Not taking a chance on cracking, splitting, etc. At 27 years old, it has had its day.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Joy-Mangano-Forever-Fragrant-Sticks/product-reviews/B004RDTAOI Bad reviews.
 
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Originally posted by rtribble

Let me say first that I realize the first step in getteing rid of offesive odors is to remove the source and eliminate the future production of offensive odors as much as possible.
That being said I am again going to recomend a product that can remove(not cover up) offensive odors that may have permeated into parts of your boat and tend to linger.
The product is Joy Mangano's Forever Fragrant. I've used this product in our home and boat for many years and it really works in eliminating odors and lasts for two years.




Thanks - I will definitely look into it.
 



If you read the reviews most the bad ones are complaining that they can baely smell the fragrance.
While these do come in diferent fragrances they are very light and as I've said they are not designed to cover up odors with a strong fragrance but rather they absorb the offending odors.
As I've said I've used them for years and they do work for me. I place one in both my holding tank compartments and one in the main cabin.
 
Has anybody tried the kookaburra gel stuff I noticed at the chandlery? Its expensive, so I'd rather not be my own Guinea pig.

Joey Battafuco's special foreever fragrance….whaaaa?????????????
 
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