Lake Lanier drought pictures
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Maybe we should just remove the dams and the argument is over. No water and no electricity. The natural flow of water is returned and the problem is solved. Yea right! These are manmade lakes and we caused the problems now we must find a solution.
From the web site of Lake Lanier." The lake's original and authorized purposes were to provide hydroelectricity and flood control. Since Lake Lanier's construction, metro Atlanta has been taking water from the reservoir to use for municipal drinking water, which was authorized by Congress as an incidental use secondary to hydroelectricity.
Since the 90's, the Corps of Engineers, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama have all been fighting for use of the water held in Lake Lanier. Federal law mandates that when a river flows between two or more states, each state has a right to an equal share of the water. Additionally, other laws such as the Endangered Species Act require that water be available for threatened or endangered species that live in or around Chattahoochee River and Apalachicola Bay."
Pascal, the water restrictions are all still in place except you can wash your car or boat at any time. Lake O is more like a gauge of what is going on with the aquifer than the lake replenishing it. The lake supplies the water to the everglades and it seeps into the ground and eventually into the Biscayne Aquifer which is the drinking water supply for south Florida. Things are about to change here is south Florida with the East Coast Water Supply Plan. The water use permits all cities and private water suppliers can take out of the aquifer is being reduced and must find alternative water supplies be it salt or brackish water along with water reuse. You will be seeing the infrastructure starting to take place in the near future. Along with the cost to go with it. Get ready to pay for it in water bill.
From the web site of Lake Lanier." The lake's original and authorized purposes were to provide hydroelectricity and flood control. Since Lake Lanier's construction, metro Atlanta has been taking water from the reservoir to use for municipal drinking water, which was authorized by Congress as an incidental use secondary to hydroelectricity.
Since the 90's, the Corps of Engineers, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama have all been fighting for use of the water held in Lake Lanier. Federal law mandates that when a river flows between two or more states, each state has a right to an equal share of the water. Additionally, other laws such as the Endangered Species Act require that water be available for threatened or endangered species that live in or around Chattahoochee River and Apalachicola Bay."
Pascal, the water restrictions are all still in place except you can wash your car or boat at any time. Lake O is more like a gauge of what is going on with the aquifer than the lake replenishing it. The lake supplies the water to the everglades and it seeps into the ground and eventually into the Biscayne Aquifer which is the drinking water supply for south Florida. Things are about to change here is south Florida with the East Coast Water Supply Plan. The water use permits all cities and private water suppliers can take out of the aquifer is being reduced and must find alternative water supplies be it salt or brackish water along with water reuse. You will be seeing the infrastructure starting to take place in the near future. Along with the cost to go with it. Get ready to pay for it in water bill.
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Bruce it's not your water, it's not my water, it is all our water. To demand the majority of it, to keep
non-indengiounous mussels alive and to protect a few oyster fishermen when millions of
lives are at stake is not only irresponsible, it is the height of arrogance and insanity put
together. Florida should be ashamed of it's greed. Right now, Charlie Christ makes Ebeneezer
Scrooge look like a philanthropist.
But hey, you want the status quo? I say, let er
rip. Let's send all that dam
water down to
you. When it dries up, and it is all gone
you can deal with the consequences.
Don't worry about us. We'll get along.
I'm at the point were I honestly hope it
happens so Florida can squeel like the
water spendthrift it is.
non-indengiounous mussels alive and to protect a few oyster fishermen when millions of
lives are at stake is not only irresponsible, it is the height of arrogance and insanity put
together. Florida should be ashamed of it's greed. Right now, Charlie Christ makes Ebeneezer
Scrooge look like a philanthropist.
But hey, you want the status quo? I say, let er
rip. Let's send all that dam
water down to you. When it dries up, and it is all gone
you can deal with the consequences.
Don't worry about us. We'll get along.
I'm at the point were I honestly hope it
happens so Florida can squeel like the
water spendthrift it is.
Bruce,
to say that overdevelopment is the cause of the problem is ridiculous. Water use is much more complicated than just saying there are too many people here ATL.
Not to mention, if there were ever a region that was overdeveloped in the SE, it would have to be FL. ATL's density is probably only average around 3-4 units/acre, IF that.
FL's density has got to be north of 15/acre. And while Lanier is the major water source for the city, it is not the only one.
Lake Allatoona serves the vast majority of western ATL and a new resevoir to serve NW metro is being built up in Canton.
The fact is though that Lanier is down 22' yet rivers below it are all full pool. Surely if it was just a genuine water shortage one would see
drought conditions both above, in, and below the lake. However, below the lake, it's as if it's been raining buckets.
Thus, a lot of the Lanier water situation is in fact a result of water management for downstream factors.
Also, if it were just "overdevelopment" that caused this problem, how do you explain previous low water levels, many of which were
very close to our now-record low (summary of those low levels below)?
Low Water Records for Lake Lanier
(1) 1050.8 ft on 12/23/2007
(2) 1052.7 ft on 12/23/1981
(3) 1054.9 ft on 10/08/1986
(4) 1055.6 ft on 01/17/2001
(5) 1057.5 ft on 12/18/1970
Right now the lake is at 1051.26 feet but is and has been dropping daily again.
to say that overdevelopment is the cause of the problem is ridiculous. Water use is much more complicated than just saying there are too many people here ATL.
Not to mention, if there were ever a region that was overdeveloped in the SE, it would have to be FL. ATL's density is probably only average around 3-4 units/acre, IF that.
FL's density has got to be north of 15/acre. And while Lanier is the major water source for the city, it is not the only one.
Lake Allatoona serves the vast majority of western ATL and a new resevoir to serve NW metro is being built up in Canton.
The fact is though that Lanier is down 22' yet rivers below it are all full pool. Surely if it was just a genuine water shortage one would see
drought conditions both above, in, and below the lake. However, below the lake, it's as if it's been raining buckets.
Thus, a lot of the Lanier water situation is in fact a result of water management for downstream factors.
Also, if it were just "overdevelopment" that caused this problem, how do you explain previous low water levels, many of which were
very close to our now-record low (summary of those low levels below)?
Low Water Records for Lake Lanier
(1) 1050.8 ft on 12/23/2007
(2) 1052.7 ft on 12/23/1981
(3) 1054.9 ft on 10/08/1986
(4) 1055.6 ft on 01/17/2001
(5) 1057.5 ft on 12/18/1970
Right now the lake is at 1051.26 feet but is and has been dropping daily again.
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Exactly my point Woodsong. Which Bruce will not acknowlege. Everything below Atlanta
is full which means that vast majority of the Lanier water is going south
not to Atlanta. I don't know how to drive this point home to Bruce.
The only way I suppose is to drain Lanier and when we have nothing
they will too, then maybe the message will get to them that the kind
of flow Florida is demanding is excessive. They certainly would not have this
kind of flow if there was no dam. So I say, they want "au natural" for their
mussels and oysters...give it to them
is full which means that vast majority of the Lanier water is going south
not to Atlanta. I don't know how to drive this point home to Bruce.
The only way I suppose is to drain Lanier and when we have nothing
they will too, then maybe the message will get to them that the kind
of flow Florida is demanding is excessive. They certainly would not have this
kind of flow if there was no dam. So I say, they want "au natural" for their
mussels and oysters...give it to them
Since ATL is built on rock perhaps it can’t support the density. Show me the reclamation project, show me the desal project
all I hear about is more building and more people. Our area is or was overbuilding but at least some effort has been
spent on the afore mentioned water projects.
all I hear about is more building and more people. Our area is or was overbuilding but at least some effort has been
spent on the afore mentioned water projects.
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Don’t agree with the water levels south of ATL being full. My parents live in southwest Georgia between Bainbridge and Chattahoochee, FL. I was up there for Thanksgiving. My older brother fishes at the JW dam almost daily. We went to the lake and dam the day after Thanksgiving and I have never seen the lake and the Apalachicola River so low. The dam was not letting any water out of the gates and only one turbine for the power plant was letting any water out. The lake and river was so full of sandbars using a boat of any size would be a real challenge. Lake Seminole is a man-made lake located in the southwest corner of Georgia along its border with Florida. The Chattahoochee and Flint rivers join in the lake, before flowing from the Jim Woodruff Lock and Dam, which impounds the lake, as the Apalachicola River. It has however rained the last couple of weeks so hopefully things are much better now.
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Well hells bells boys, I published the charts, but if you think
I am a liar, here is the site. Click on the dam dams yourself if you don't
believe what I posted.
http://water.sam.usace.army.mil/acfframe.htm
I am a liar, here is the site. Click on the dam dams yourself if you don't
believe what I posted.
http://water.sam.usace.army.mil/acfframe.htm
Water Wars are on in the East. This type of fight has been on going out west for the past 200 years. I've got two very productive and very deep water wells on property that I own. The wells are into stratum that provide natural pressure and the wells flow continuous without pumping. The water is 200 year old water and very clear and clean. I'll sell the water at the well head for $100.00 per barrel. Buy all you need.