Suggestions for a brand new head...
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Vacu-pump.....oh wait, Walter uses that to make his head bigger.
Treatment.....like in penicillin?
Prime.....few tugs works for me!
Treatment.....like in penicillin?
Prime.....few tugs works for me!
This in not the NBR, chill.....
"Vacu-pump.....oh wait, Walter uses that to make his head bigger."
Dave ment that the size of the Vacu-Flush and its efficencey, will make it seem like your head is bigger.
"Treatment.....like in penicillin?"
Dave is a man of few words, so his post may not of explained it correctly. What he ment to say is with a vacuflush, The head will be as bacteria free as if you treated it with penicillin.
"Prime.....few tugs works for me!"
Dave still thinks the manual heads are good, I prefer the sucking action (vacuflush) as opposed to the old manual head, "Tug action".
"Yeah......Nothing like some brand new head....once-in-awhile.."
Well, I find no explantion needed for that..... :}
Hope this post was usefull...
Walter
"Vacu-pump.....oh wait, Walter uses that to make his head bigger."
Dave ment that the size of the Vacu-Flush and its efficencey, will make it seem like your head is bigger.
"Treatment.....like in penicillin?"
Dave is a man of few words, so his post may not of explained it correctly. What he ment to say is with a vacuflush, The head will be as bacteria free as if you treated it with penicillin.
"Prime.....few tugs works for me!"
Dave still thinks the manual heads are good, I prefer the sucking action (vacuflush) as opposed to the old manual head, "Tug action".
"Yeah......Nothing like some brand new head....once-in-awhile.."
Well, I find no explantion needed for that..... :}
Hope this post was usefull...
Walter
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inkblue, I think you need to explain a little more just what your question was. Also, what the application and environment is - size, make, model and year of boat, do you have a holding tank, where and how the boat is being used, how much you're willing to spend, etc., etc.
Ya gotta remember, there are a lot of guys on the Forum, whose boats are laid up for another couple of months, and they've got "Cabin Fever" - and are just waiting for an ambiguous question to jump onto, and have a little fun with. So the answers you get may not be quite what you expected. Plus, the general nature of this particular Forum often gets a lot of comical, but not always funny, replies. [:-bouncy] [:-bouncy]
So anyway, let's get a little more info from you and we should be able to help you out.
Ya gotta remember, there are a lot of guys on the Forum, whose boats are laid up for another couple of months, and they've got "Cabin Fever" - and are just waiting for an ambiguous question to jump onto, and have a little fun with. So the answers you get may not be quite what you expected. Plus, the general nature of this particular Forum often gets a lot of comical, but not always funny, replies. [:-bouncy] [:-bouncy]
So anyway, let's get a little more info from you and we should be able to help you out.
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Alex, what we (at Raritan) suggest is to add our product "KO - Kills Odors" to the holding tank at the rate of 4 oz. of KO for each 25 gallons of tank capacity when originally commissioning the tank, and after every pumpout. Simply add it to a bucket of clean water, then dump it in the head and flush it off to the holding tank. That should hold you until the next pumpout is due. Then, after pumping out the tank, flush the tank out with clean water, and add the KO again in the same ratio.
KO breaks down the waste and the toilet tissue and helps to liquify it, as well as keeping odors to a minimum.
See Mfrs. part #'s 1PKO22 and 1PKOGAL at the following link (scroll down - it's 5 or 6 down from the top):
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarclean.asp
On that same page, you'll see the recommended toilet bowl cleaner "CP - Cleans Potties" (part # 1PCP22) as well. Just squirt a little around in the bowl, and swish the inside of the bowl with your johnny mop every now and then - works real well and smells nice, too! Then flush the head and you're done. It is perfectly compatible with KO and may be used in systems that have Lectra/San or Purasan treatment systems, too.
The above are just suggestions; there's no requirement that you use them.
One caveat though, about KO - you need a large diameter holding tank vent line (3/4" I.D. min., preferably larger) in order to get air into the tank. KO, in order to work properly, needs plenty of oxygen coming into the tank. The small 1/2" I.D. and 5/8" I.D. vent lines that are included by many builders won't cut it, and the KO probably won't work in those instances.
If your tank has the smaller 1/2" or 5/8" vent lines, don't even bother with KO. Instead, try the product "Odorlos". This product generates it's own oxygen out of the nitrates that are contained in the effluent inside the tank. It doesn't always last until the next pumpout however, especially during the summer months when it's hot. It may be necessary to add more to the tank at some point before pumping out the tank. BoatFix doesn't carry it, but many other places do. You can do a web search on ODORLOS; their website contains a list of places that carry it, by zip code. It isn't expensive.
KO breaks down the waste and the toilet tissue and helps to liquify it, as well as keeping odors to a minimum.
See Mfrs. part #'s 1PKO22 and 1PKOGAL at the following link (scroll down - it's 5 or 6 down from the top):
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarclean.asp
On that same page, you'll see the recommended toilet bowl cleaner "CP - Cleans Potties" (part # 1PCP22) as well. Just squirt a little around in the bowl, and swish the inside of the bowl with your johnny mop every now and then - works real well and smells nice, too! Then flush the head and you're done. It is perfectly compatible with KO and may be used in systems that have Lectra/San or Purasan treatment systems, too.
The above are just suggestions; there's no requirement that you use them.
One caveat though, about KO - you need a large diameter holding tank vent line (3/4" I.D. min., preferably larger) in order to get air into the tank. KO, in order to work properly, needs plenty of oxygen coming into the tank. The small 1/2" I.D. and 5/8" I.D. vent lines that are included by many builders won't cut it, and the KO probably won't work in those instances.
If your tank has the smaller 1/2" or 5/8" vent lines, don't even bother with KO. Instead, try the product "Odorlos". This product generates it's own oxygen out of the nitrates that are contained in the effluent inside the tank. It doesn't always last until the next pumpout however, especially during the summer months when it's hot. It may be necessary to add more to the tank at some point before pumping out the tank. BoatFix doesn't carry it, but many other places do. You can do a web search on ODORLOS; their website contains a list of places that carry it, by zip code. It isn't expensive.
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Alex, to try and clarify thing a bit, I'm with Raritan Engineering, not BoatFix (I'm moderator on the BoaterEd Sanitation Forum only, and have no direct affiliation with BoatFix, although George, Les and I have become friends through our BoaterEd relationship).
SeaLand is one of our (Raritan's) competitors. That being said, SeaLand is a little different than most companies. The bulk of their product (the VacuFlush line of marine toilets) is sold through distributors and dealers who also do the installations. While they will allow you to "do it yourself," they won't honor any warranty on it unless their people have installed it, or their people have reviewed the installation and certified that it meets SeaLand's standards and requirements.
BoatFix carries SeaLand "Odor-Safe hose and some other things that SeaLand makes, but not their biggest and best-known product - the VacuFlush toilet.
As far as quality goes, the VacuFlush is fine. Many of the RO's here have them and love them. The original installation can be a bit complicated, but they've tried to simplify it in more recent years. If installed properly, the VacuFlush operation is as trouble-free as anything else available, and better than many.
Being employed by Raritan, I of course "tout" Raritan products which likewise, are of high quality. BoatFix carries the complete Raritan product line, but again BoatFix and Raritan are two completely different companies, with no direct connection at all - just friendly business associates (most of the time).
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarprod.asp
To compare the two product lines (Raritan and SeaLand) is like trying to decide which is better - vanilla or chocolate ice cream? Some like one, others like the other. Is a Lincoln better than a Cadillac? Who knows? It's basically a matter of personal preference.
SeaLand is one of our (Raritan's) competitors. That being said, SeaLand is a little different than most companies. The bulk of their product (the VacuFlush line of marine toilets) is sold through distributors and dealers who also do the installations. While they will allow you to "do it yourself," they won't honor any warranty on it unless their people have installed it, or their people have reviewed the installation and certified that it meets SeaLand's standards and requirements.
BoatFix carries SeaLand "Odor-Safe hose and some other things that SeaLand makes, but not their biggest and best-known product - the VacuFlush toilet.
As far as quality goes, the VacuFlush is fine. Many of the RO's here have them and love them. The original installation can be a bit complicated, but they've tried to simplify it in more recent years. If installed properly, the VacuFlush operation is as trouble-free as anything else available, and better than many.
Being employed by Raritan, I of course "tout" Raritan products which likewise, are of high quality. BoatFix carries the complete Raritan product line, but again BoatFix and Raritan are two completely different companies, with no direct connection at all - just friendly business associates (most of the time).
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarprod.asp
To compare the two product lines (Raritan and SeaLand) is like trying to decide which is better - vanilla or chocolate ice cream? Some like one, others like the other. Is a Lincoln better than a Cadillac? Who knows? It's basically a matter of personal preference.
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After having two Jabscos break down, I've switched to a Raritan PHII. So far, it's worked well.