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That's what I kept thinking - "Pull it back out! Something's going wrong!"
Brand new yacht capsizes
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That's what I kept thinking - "Pull it back out! Something's going wrong!"
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How long until he's asked to remove those comments and pic?
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Yeah but I'd take anything he posted with a huge grain of salt. His description of his qualifications was more than a bit misleading. Plus if he really had so much input into the design of the vessel (which I doubt) he has nothing to crow about. Nor should he be pointing fingers at this point.
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What are his issues that he was removed from the project?
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Boat sure does look extra top heavy and a narrow beam for that size boat.
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He says on Sept 16 he warned about the launch method. If he put that in writing that would make him prescience regardless of his inflated qualifications. I don't think based upon the documents I have seen so far, the vessel has design issues. Plenty of them have been built and operating succesfully as well as the fact that the engineering company said it met stability standards. This coupled with the strategic edits of the YouTube video, wherein even Mr. Creepy admits he cannot show you what happened, but several witnesses accounts state tires failed says to me this was a launch probblem, not a boat design problem.
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I don't think the tires failed. If you look at th hull shape, and this is more obvious on another video of the he boat before bottom painting, the hull is very shallow at the stern, it has a keel, but very shallow draft as it tapers from full draft to almost nothing over the last 15 or 20'. This means there is less buoyancy and not enough for the stern to float while the bow is high and dry on its dolly. Which means that if the transom door was left open, as it was earlier in the launch and which is probably why no footage fom the stern is shown, the swim platform must hve been under and the lazarette flooded.
When you launch a square stern power boat down a ramp, there is a lot volume at the stern to float it. Not with such a hull.
While the scale is very different, my sailboat also has a tapered hull and when we launched I got worried for a second because the stern didn't float off th trailer until most of the boat was actually in the water and for a moment part of the stern was way low in the water
When you launch a square stern power boat down a ramp, there is a lot volume at the stern to float it. Not with such a hull.
While the scale is very different, my sailboat also has a tapered hull and when we launched I got worried for a second because the stern didn't float off th trailer until most of the boat was actually in the water and for a moment part of the stern was way low in the water
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"David Lavigne says, “Local rumor is that one of the ‘trucks’ allowing the rig to roll, and holding the supports in place, had a tire (or two) go flat, causing stress on the supporting structure. "
Given the pictures of the tires damn near on their rims from overload, a tire failure would not surprise me. Maybe the flood in the stern ultimately lead to tire failure, I don't know but it is obvious from the video that the whole load was listing to port well before the stern was far into the water.
Given the pictures of the tires damn near on their rims from overload, a tire failure would not surprise me. Maybe the flood in the stern ultimately lead to tire failure, I don't know but it is obvious from the video that the whole load was listing to port well before the stern was far into the water.
To lift a boat off a trailer the aft end must start to float first. When that happens the boat is pivoting at the bow with the flotation to lift it provided only by the buoyancy of the immersed stern. All the rest of the boat was unsupported.
The steeper the angle then less volume immersed for buoyancy. So when this launch was happening only a small section of the bow was supported and the rest of the boat was off the dollies and trying to be floated by the buoyancy of a small section of the immersed stern. The boat tipped because it was only supported at a small section of the bow and what ever stability the immersed stern contributed. There was nothing to stop it tilting.
They might have succeeded if they kept it upright and got it all in the water before the stern flooded or it tipped over..
Drop one end of a 2X4 in the water with the other end on a dock and see how far if must go before the wet end of the board floats.
The steeper the angle then less volume immersed for buoyancy. So when this launch was happening only a small section of the bow was supported and the rest of the boat was off the dollies and trying to be floated by the buoyancy of a small section of the immersed stern. The boat tipped because it was only supported at a small section of the bow and what ever stability the immersed stern contributed. There was nothing to stop it tilting.
They might have succeeded if they kept it upright and got it all in the water before the stern flooded or it tipped over..
Drop one end of a 2X4 in the water with the other end on a dock and see how far if must go before the wet end of the board floats.
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what a beautiful boat i love the blue and straight windsheild bad launch but she will be cleaned up and have a great story to tell the ship delivering cement around here is the Steven B Roman she rolled when new with the loss of a few crew its not hard to find many videos of many having a bad launch i hope the builders survive this as it looks like a good build looks to be a single engine blue water trawler type
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Excellent analogy.
I bet it takes another couple of mil to clean off anything interior that got wet. No one is going to accept delivery of a 10 mil boat that rolled without some refit. Would you? Plus we don't know if the roll damaged the side and/or hull itself. Add to that the time that the boat sits while everyone sues each other. I wouldn't be surprised if it sits for years and is finally auctioned off for half of its initial value.
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I would pay a mil for it!
LOL!
LOL!
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http://threesheetsnw.com/blog/2014/05/builder-blames-ramp-in-10-million-yacht-capsize/
Interesting comment in that article:
Fridell, who was standing on the dock to the yacht’s starboard side during the launch and serving as safety administrator, said there was a sound “like a pop” as the boat was being backed into the water, and almost simultaneously the vessel listed to port.
The launch was halted, he said, and after an inspection deemed the launch system sound, a decision was made to continue
Seems as if someone made a very bad decision. And/or a very bad inspection.
Fridell, who was standing on the dock to the yacht’s starboard side during the launch and serving as safety administrator, said there was a sound “like a pop” as the boat was being backed into the water, and almost simultaneously the vessel listed to port.
The launch was halted, he said, and after an inspection deemed the launch system sound, a decision was made to continue
Seems as if someone made a very bad decision. And/or a very bad inspection.