Trawlers vs. Cruisers

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Originally posted by abalmuth
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Ayup again. I think they were having issues with their trim tabs, hence the nose up attitude at speed. Also think they said they were having trouble charging batteries and with the domestic hot water system. Suppose that's normal with custom hand crafted yachts though.
 
Looks like there's a lot of interest in Trawlers here. I'll probably be trading my Cruisers in for a Trawler in a couple of years. Wonder if there's enough interest in Trawlers to warrant its own forum on BE?
 
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Originally posted by swt

Looks like there's a lot of interest in Trawlers here. I'll probably be trading my Cruisers in for a Trawler in a couple of years. Wonder if there's enough interest in Trawlers to warrant its own forum on BE?






Oh no you di'nt!!
 
SWT- We all kno that everyone has "Boaters Envy" and "Two Foot itus" When I owned cruisers I always wanted a trawler. Now that I have one I'm very happy with it and the lifestlye that it has allowed us to enjoy. I agree with you that it would be nice to have a "Trawler" section on the forum. I think that there are a bunch of people on here that think that trawlers all have to cruise at 30 knots. Personally I'm happy cruising a TRUE trawler at 7 knots. There is a big difference in a Semi Displacement boat vs. a full displacement trawler.
 
I disagree that there should be yet-another-forum. We seem to be doing fine covering it in ATC.

I think that as we as boaters get older, we begin to prefer to not crash into the waves but to cut smoothly through them. Sleeping on a bunk that is longer than I am, on something that qualifies as a mattress, in A/C becomes not just more enjoyable, but more critical to the ability to stay on the water.

Plus, for me, the real joy of boating is the getting there, rather than the arrival. Trawler type cruising lets a boater revel in the joys of the sea for a longer time period compared to the fast cruiser types.
 
And let's not forget that a planing hull's weight is supported by hydrodynamic water pressure whereas a displacement hull is supported by hydrostatic water pressure. It's the percentage of the hydrodynamic and hydrostatic lift that classify a craft as planing, semi-planing, semi-displacement, or displacement .
 
I agree that a topic dealing with trawlers would be a nice touch and a welcome item.
 
Few people will agree an what a trawler is, the difficulty is in the definition. It it a trawler because the maker calls it a trawler? Is it a trawler if it only goes slow? Is it a trawler if it has one engine? Can it be a trawler if it can go fast? If it doesn’t have a real keel can it be a trawler? Do trawlers have hard chines? Is it a trawler if it doesn’t have a canoe stern?
Lets have the trawler fans identify what a trawler is then we might be able to have a reasonable separation.
 
pdcat
The same can be said about most vessels
at least a trawler classification eliminates many boat styles. If you dont want to participate in a forum for trawler so be it.
 
Sorry, but it aint a trawler just because sombody thinks it is.
Since this is supposed to be about education it would be nice to begin with some facts rather than marketing baloney.
 
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Originally posted by abalmuth

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Originally posted by Veebyes

The Back Cove is to Saberline like the Bently is to a Rolls Royce.




Rolls-Royce and Bently are not the same company
Rolls is owned by BMW
Bently is owned by VW








Oh lets split some more hairs here why don't we. Who cares which company builds Bently & Rolls?

The point being made is that for years the Bently was considered the poor mans Rolls.

Sheeesh!!!!
 
Honestly there aren't very many TRUE Trawlers out there. A true full displacement example is something like a Kady Krogan 39, Nordhavan 40, Willard 40 just to name a few.May I suggest that you read "Voyaging Under Power" if you want to learn more about trawlers. These boats are all full displacement boats of which there speed is limited by the hull shape. Add all the power you want to them and all that they will do is burn lots more fuel and drive deeper into the water. The Willard 40 footers are full keeled, single engine, soft chined full displacement trawlers as a very good example. Did I mention very economical It's top speed is a little better then 7 knots at 1.8 gph. A Nordic Tug (just an example) is not truely a full displacement trawler, at lest not with a top speed of 15 plus knots and its semi displacement hull. This ought to stir something up!!!
 
I agree Rob and to further burst some bubbles neither are the famous Grand Banks boats trawlers either.
 
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Originally posted by Veebyes

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Originally posted by abalmuth

quote:

Originally posted by Veebyes

The Back Cove is to Saberline like the Bently is to a Rolls Royce.




Rolls-Royce and Bently are not the same company
Rolls is owned by BMW
Bently is owned by VW








Oh lets split some more hairs here why don't we. Who cares which company builds Bently & Rolls?

The point being made is that for years the Bently was considered the poor mans Rolls.

Sheeesh!!!!








Well
For once I have to agree with you.
While the Brits built the cars they were very similar in most aspects. Mostly badgeing and other details
Mostly they were both built and ran like crap – I know because I used to work on them both
Defiantly not a driver’s car, well maybe some of the turbo Bentlys’were.
I would guess that every since the Germans started owning them their being built to higher standards.
 
Another thing on which i agree with Andy. RR and Bentleys were over hyped junk. Nevertheless, some people still think they were great cars, similar to old boat fans I guess.
 
I'm building a trawler. Well at least a replica of a trawler. Full displacement hull. Deep keel. Top speed just a tad over 7 kts.

This was one of the early conceptual sketches I did. We'll be pretty close to this I think.

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